Without any flashy marketing campaigns or social media fanfare, Valve rolled out a routine Steam Client update containing a very simple line in the patch notes: “Improved Steam Client startup performance.”

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[–] 21 points 3 days ago

Even if Steam was slower, it's a better platform. When I go to a game's store page on Steam I learn literally everything about it. Literally everything I need to know. Because there's user reviews. Because there's a link to the forums.

EGS doesn't have user input. They don't even include as many vids/screenshots. It's all very low effort and I have to go elsewhere to figure things out about the product.

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  • [–] 78 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 232 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Patch notes: "we didn't think anyone really gave a shit, but fuck epic"

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  • [–] 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    It didn't really bother me before, but it has been kind of slow to start for a long time. Bad enough for me to notice that's it's slow, but not bad enough to feel the need to complain about it.

    Now it only takes about 6 seconds for me which is perfectly fine. As someone who only runs Steam when I'm about to play a game through it, it's a very noticeable improvement!

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  • [–] 15 points 3 days ago

    Launch times don't matter to me. I never shut Steam down, and I almost never open EGS. What an odd metric to boast about, anyway. Launch time is the least of EGS' problems.

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  • [–] 166 points 4 days ago (45 children)

    I open steam exactly once, then never again until I restart my computer. Why would this even matter.

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  • [–] 43 points 4 days ago (15 children)

    Some people get stuck on performance numbers that don't matter. Like Linux users that say they want 5second boot time instead of 8. Why? Or a sorts car owner that never does track days but likes to tell you their car can do 240km/h...when we have 120km/h road limits.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago

    Or a sorts car owner that never does track days but likes to tell you their car can do 240km/h...when we have 120km/h road limits.

    Yeah, but to be fair that V10 Lamborghini Huracán can get up to that speed limit much more quickly than my budget-sports-car Scion tC can. Besides, how are we supposed to know how small their penis is unless they rev their engine up so loud it hurts everyone’s ears?

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  • [–] [S] 34 points 4 days ago

    Public relations, pride, vengeance?

    Companies often take actions which don't directly improve the product for customers but instead offer benefits to the company. Typing that out in 2026 is... It's nice that it isn't pure enshittification for once.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 days ago* (5 children)

    I actually kinda hate that steam is always running.

    I get the reasons why, but I would rather just have like a steam updater daemon than the full app running, and would also prefer that Steam starts quickly unless you catch it during the daemon's start up.

    The other use case is for HTPC I do not like Big Picture mode as my "home" experience. If you open Steam with game scope it goes into big picture automatically, so it's designed for Steam Machine experiences and not HTPC. The new screensaver feature (which is in beta, so should improve) uses a lot of GPU and polls CPU frequently, so it's actually a bit annoying to have running. I would rather use a more native launcher than the Big Picture mode experience, so you end up having to watch the opening animation frequently to mask the slow startup.

    Again, this is pretty mild, and I don't think even PS5 provides a large improvement.

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    [–] 68 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    My "Hello, World!" script boots approximately 18000x faster than the Epic launcher.

    The difference in features between the two is about the same as it is between Steam and the Epic launcher.

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    [–] 99 points 4 days ago* (6 children)

    https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/710037059469839721

    The actual update post from Valve. Why is it not linked in the article? The notes are huge, with many things improved. Off course one of the improvements would probably lead to better loading times. This isn't a response to Epic Games, this is a main update developed way before.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Avoid stealing focus when the Steam main window opens, if another window was activated during startup/login.

    Holy hell finally. This has annoyed me for so damn long.

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  • [–] 115 points 4 days ago

    Epic: I Feel Bad For You

    Valve: I Don't Think About You At All

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Who gives a shit even with a 5s difference

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    [–] 62 points 4 days ago (17 children)

    Tim Sweeny: "Is there anything we are better at than steam? Literally anything? I will take anything we can market, no matter how pathetic and desperate it seems."

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    [–] 62 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    As much as I dislike Epic, it’s good that they’re at least trying to compete with Valve. Forces them to actually get out patches like that.

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  • [–] 58 points 4 days ago (10 children)

    It’s vibe coded, and what they actually need to do is build up their features

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  • [–] 15 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    It was only very recently you could even look at your own games library. The ecosystem couldn't/wouldn't tell you if you owned a game or not.

    They have zero social integration features and it's 2026.

    Anybody who defends them is delusional, EPIC are absolute garbage, they are not competing with Valve despite what people keep saying. There is no competition.

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    [–] 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

    As Steam has been extremely slow to launch for quite some time now, anybody want to take a stab at why it took an Epic Games taunt for them to take care of it?

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  • [–] 54 points 4 days ago (11 children)

    "Reduced artificial delays by half"

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  • [–] 29 points 3 days ago

    Who the fuck cares if the fast launcher is a piece of crap with a fraction of features needed for a good library and storefront?

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  • [–] 41 points 4 days ago

    How will my splines get reticulated?

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  • [–] 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    As pathetic as Epic is, this is a strong demonstration of why monopolies are bad and competition is needed.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago*

    This isn't a case of competition though; Valve didn't slip in a last second speedup to get back at Epic, the patch had already been built and tested and just happened to come out a day after Epic's did.

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    [–] 33 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Boasting about some improvement being vibe coded is such a confusing disconnect for me. There are so many layers of transparent shit that I cannot see through it.

    People dislike epic game launcher for so many reasons. The launch time is something I've never considered important.

    The "look how much better we are than X" makes you seem like douchebag. They, don't seem to grasp it, or they will wouldn't boast, and that makes it even worse. Then they admit that it was vibe coded. Why? I become immediately suspicious of the change being done carelessly, isn't properly QA tested, and indicative of a shitty state to begin with. I wasn't going to install the epic launcher on Linux, but now I'm even less likely to do so.

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    [–] 24 points 4 days ago*

    Huh, I guess competition is good for motivating improvement. Even when you're competing against the kid that eats paste.

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  • Recently, Epic Games decided to tackle that reputation head-on by unveiling a preview version of its rebuilt Epic Games Launcher V2, which the company proudly noted was developed with heavy AI assistance. Basically, a decade of working on it themselves, no luck, but they got the AI vibes to help and it did a better job… Not the brag they seem to think it is, but let’s roll with it for now.

    Damn, do you need something for that burn?

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  • [–] 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Completely irrelevant ofc that the Steam Client is much more than a glorified game shortcut collection with a shop.

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