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[–] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Pen-testing is part of good security...

    ...but let's be real, anyone who believes Trump won't exploit this rather than patch it is delusional.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 days ago

    Both GW Bush in 2000, and Trump in 2016, lost the popular vote yet won the electoral college. They went on to appoint the conservative majority to the Supreme Court. The system has already been subverted with no meaningful attempts at reform.

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  • [–] 73 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Independent testing of voting machines and open sourcing the vulnerabilities in order to get them patched, is a good idea.

    Unfortunately, we all know what the Trump Regime actually intends to do: Keep the vulnerabilities in their pocket, and use them to secure "victories".

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  • [–] [S] 171 points 5 days ago (12 children)

    The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.

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    [–] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah, this election is gonna be stolen for sure... And guess what, Muricans will do nothing about it. They will throw their hands in the air and say "well, I tried".

    They already should have done something when their brain dead / brainwashed compatriots elected a CHILD-RAPING FELON, but nope. Sure, he was (possibly) "fairly" elected, that doesn't mean you can't show your "dissatisfaction" for it.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    I never understand the point of the "But he was elected fairly" angle. So was Vladimir Putin as far as anyone can tell, so was Adolf Hitler, so was Stalin, the only major dictator of the last century that I can think of that definitely seized power through illegitimate means is Castro I suppose you could also make an argument for the CCP but certain people refute that.

    Most dictators become dictators over time, the vast majority don't grab power from a legitimate government because they would instantly have a fight on their hands. Usually that only happens with the US's assistance.

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  • [–] 130 points 5 days ago

    Normally vulnerability testing would be a good thing, but in this case I think it's safe to assume the worst motivations for it.

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  • [–] 100 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    It’s the old projection thing again.

    Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up!

    Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.

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    [–] 8 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Uplifting: He already looks like a cadaver.

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  • [–] 45 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    It’s totally fine though. Since no one in America has the balls to do anything about it- it’s legal.

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  • [–] 70 points 4 days ago (8 children)

    Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they're not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for second term. But I don't think much came of it...

    The US is a flawed democracy, and has been on a steady decline for years.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system.

    States run their own elections and they're usually administered at the county level. I can't speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our voting process maintains integrity.

    If you don't know how elections are administered where you live I encourage you to take an interest and get involved. We all have a duty here to oversee that we are administering elections with integrity.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    The system is made up of many components, and voting machines are but one part. Even though they might be hackable in various ways, there are much more efficient ways these days to sway an election. The Cambridge Analytics scandal proved one efficient way, while there's now a growing belief that whoever controls the social media algorithm effectively controls public opinion.
    And don't get me started on the two-party-system in the US...

    So no need to hack the machines, really. The system is flawed/corrupt elsewhere more severely.

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    [–] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I read a story yesterday about Dolly Parton's sister and a few others saying they watched their votes for a democrat switch to the republican candidate before their eyes. She said she had to try it 3 times before it registered the correct vote. Though I have no more information than that I find this extremely troubling knowing with certainty that Trump and his enablers are completely willing to do this and worse in order to stay in power. Pay very close attention when you're voting.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    That isn't really what is at risk, that's just a MAGA poll worker deliberately sabotaging the touch screen calibration. It might be an attempt at election theft, but what Trump is seeking to do is much more covert and you won't even notice it. They will try to see if and where they can flip the tallies and mess with the paper trail if there is any, and that's only on one of the levels he will be trying to steal the midterms.

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  • [–] 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Don't they have voting machines every year at DEFCON?

    I feel like this is already been litigated.

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    [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    This pedophile wants to be Porfirio Diaz soooo bad

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  • [–] 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Of course they hacked voting machines to audit their security. Apart from that, voting machines can't fulfill the transparency requirements of democratic elections on principle. So just not using them would be better anyway.

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    [–] 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

    Can't wait for stories like this to suddenly just disappear in November when Republicans somehow - miraculously! - barely squeek out enough votes to secure key races at the very las second.

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    [–] 36 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    The smoking gun for me is how much they've been screaming about others cheating. They cheated.

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    [–] 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    The first stone has fallen out of the wall. I hope it leads to more. If you look at the various numerical anomalies that occurred in swing states only, it becomes very plausible that Harris actually won.

    • Mail-in votes closely reflected polling, but election-night voting (i.e. on the machines) contradicted the polls.
    • Split-ticket voting occurred much more often than usual - in this case, ballots with a vote for Trump and votes for Democrats the rest of the way. This does happen in elections, but not nearly to the degree it happened in the swing states.
    • The anomalies were always enough for Trump to win, but just below the thresholds that would trigger automatic audits.
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    Why do it in secret? Def con does it as sport.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 days ago

    As much as I would want to cry foul, this sound like a typical red team exercise.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago

    November 2023 repeat with another minor update.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Pillow magnate guy already got the inner workings of all the voting machines in 2020 and they reverse engineered them all from the swing states, likely all the red states too. GA I think, MI, CO, AZ, and so forth.

    It's just one facet of their plans to rig elections (moreso.)

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    [–] 7 points 3 days ago

    Calling big balls.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    This is an inherent flaw of digital voting machines. One has to trust their integrity which only can be confirmed by a few specialists. By design, that is a lot simpler to undermine than a system that relies on a huge number of people where almost anyone who wants to is capable of taking part in securing the integrity of the vote.

    No self respecting democracy should use them.

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    [–] 9 points 4 days ago

    Go for it, they will choose the most inexperienced losers and it will blow up in their face. Like the doctored Epstein footage with the movie maker marks

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  • [–] 22 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    So everyone who was involved in pushing that order is going to jail right?

    Right?

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    [–] 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for.

    I know I am going to be checking in to make sure my vote was counted and counted for the people I want to win. You should to.

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