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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't realize the difference in size. I wonder how a juvenile with similar mass would fare. I'd still give it the orca, sharks are a tasty treat to them.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ocras travel in a pod with their family while Great Whites and other large sharks are loners.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

And orcas are smart with complex hunting tactics.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Had an argument with a guy at work as to whether a polar bear could beat a gorilla. He could not be persuaded that a 600kg apex predator would fuck up what is basically a fat guy who eats flowers...

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think it depends where they fight.

If polar bear would fight in the jungle it would get hot and go to drink water. At that time it would be completelly open for suplex from the gorilla.

And if they were to fight on the ice sheet the gorilla would not have any trees where to hang tire swing and he would get depressed and unintrested to fight. So in the end it boils down to what kind of social services and safety nets are in the arctic and can they help primates like 1989 released Belgian techno anthem Pump up the jam can help humans.

[–] NosferatuZodd@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Philomena Cunk fan by any chance?

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago

My mate Paul once fought a polar bear. It only beat him because he'd lost an arm fighting a gorilla earlier that afternoon.

[–] eldain@feddit.nl 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you put them in the same room, whoever gets to set the climate control wins.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

This is such an underrated comment lol

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Mountain gorillas are definitely not fat.

[–] SirHamlin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Say what you want this is is an interesting thought, although the polar bear would most likely win because of its sheer mass. The gorilla has a lot going for it. A silverback can get to almost half that weight and has a greater bite force, intelligence, agility, and reach. They can also throw punches of up to 2300 lbs of force, which could easily break a bone or skull.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Polar bears are fucking massive. Not just in weight but everything. I give reach to the polar bear as well.

Some of the largest gorillas have a standing height of ~6 ft. A polar bears standing height is 10-11 ft. Their average shoulder height on four legs is 5ft. The bear out weighs a gorilla about 3-4x.

My money is on the bear. The gorilla would probably land some good hits but the second the bear can pin down its movement that fight is over.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The bear is in the foreground and the boat in the background, with probably at least 1.5-2m difference. Im aware polar bears are massive, but this image skews the relative size of the bear to seem larger than it actually is.

Also, have you seen a wet polar bear? They look significantly smaller when the fur is not fluffed.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’ll agree that the diff in foreground is skewing it a bit. I’ll edit this because I think you mean 1.5-2m between the boat and bear. If the bear is normalish sized it should be about 1.5m(5ft) tall. The guy in the boat is probably similar but he is also standing on something at or below water level versus above it like the bear. Which also gives the illusion of the bear being bigger.

Polar bears change weight significantly throughout the year. So that can change what they look like wet as well. Their fluff will always be less.

The point I was trying to make… A gorilla’s strength is technically enough to lift a polar bear’s weight but it’s in the upper end of their strength. The bear is going to fight every step of the way and it’s not going to behave like an inanimate object. The bear is almost guaranteed to have one or two limbs on the ground at all times providing it leverage. Polar bears can lift approximately twice what a gorilla weighs. Add in its nearly 2x size advantage, 3-4x weight advantage, the thicker hide, ~10cm of fat insulation, 5-7cm claws, and carnivorous focused teeth…I don’t see it ending well for the gorilla.

[–] supamanc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The polar bear preys on animals heavier than a gorilla....

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The next issue is training. Gorilla has none and the bear fights naturally.

[–] SirHamlin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gorillas fight a fair amount so to say they have no training isn't correct.

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm certainly no expert so I'd appreciate any Jane Goodall types that want to correct me, but aren't almost all gorilla fights for dominance until someone backs down so no one gets too fucked up and rarely dies? Whereas polar bears kill to live.

Also, gorillas may have a hell of a haymaker but polar bears have big nasty fuck you claws.

[–] SirHamlin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Agreed I think it'd be pretty crazy fight. If it didn't hurt the animals involved I'd pay-per-view it for sure. From what I read they fight for territory, family protection, securing a female and to keep their rank. However, I am not a gorilla expert but I did stay at a holiday and express once.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

A more apt comparison would be a black bear vs a gorilla.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

50ish million years ago, some mammals sitting at the shores saw sharks and thought.. "I could fuck them up if I had a tail."

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Could they fuck sharks up?

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

Of course. They had tails.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"Great whites have been seen abandoning this prime feeding area when killer whales come too close for comfort—even if the mammals are simply passing through for a few hours. And the sharks do not just disappear for a day or two—they stay away for the entire season."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/orcas-may-turn-great-white-sharks-into-scaredy-cats/

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Team Mammal. Y'all are just a bunch of homers.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It'd probably be pretty easy to convince them if the two were next to each other for scale. The biggest orcas can grow to twice as long as the average great white.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm getting the gist of the meme, but the MMA reference... I don't get it.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I have no idea what the original was, but it became a format that people started using for memes. Here are a few random others:

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I was very confused on how any of this is related to MMA and had to hunt in the comments. Thanks for the explanation.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

#2 depends on whether righty can call down Mjölnir and the lightning.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

That guy on the right's gonna be so thor that it hurts to breathe.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Underneath the fat is a wall of abs.

That clears things up lol Here's to hoping the meme trend doesn't die, this is a good one.

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Macho Marine Animals

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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That guy on the right is huge.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The one on the left is probably bigger. That's not a photo of a great white, but an artist rendition of a megalodon.

Would it win though? I have doubts. Especially in light of the macroraptorial sperm whales like Livyatan.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not an MMA fan, but I still know the thing because I've seen Butterbean beat the shit out of Johnny Knoxville on Jackass. Pure muscle can sometimes look like fat.

[–] temmink@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well the other ones a fish....so

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

They're in the same category as rays...those MFers killed Steve Irwin man, I wouldn't count them for nothing either.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Calories? You mean delicious points.

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