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[–] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Whether there is evidence or not of surveillance via Starlink, does anyone believe that anything connected to the Internet does not have some ability for surveillance imbedded?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago*

    In general people have no fucking idea or just don't want to know.

    You can lay out the evidence of all the ways cigarettes will kill a person and a huge number of people will go ahead and smoke anyway. We are not an entirely rational species.

    People have a massive capacity for self delusion. Even then a lot of people who accept the truth of living under corporate and government mass surveillance think the risks are acceptable or won't be abused or are unavoidable in modern life. They are wrong but I can understand how their delusion brings them comfort.

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  • [–] 64 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Obviously most of people in comments didn't read the article, so here is TLDR:

    A shady Israeli company was found to be spreading scary zero-click spyware through targeted ads. Despite being banned from Google ad platform, they seem to simply change business entity from time to time and keep doing what they do. One of such attacks was targeted to people using StarLink, including in countries that restrict StarLink use. Attacks through targeted ads, not StarLink itself. Targeted ads are bad, StarLink users are target audience.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    This is what happens when you societally refuse to "pierce the corporate veil". The criminals actually performing the illegal activity wear articles of incorporation like a costume or disguise, then when they get busted, they throw that costume in a dumpster and get a new one.

    I think we need Fred, Daphne, and Velma to find out who this criminal really is.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago

    This is what Surprised_Pikachu.jpg was made for I Imagine.

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  • [–] 148 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    We should find the guy that made this and lock him up!

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  • [–] 69 points 4 days ago

    I'm not arguing against your username, but this article is about an Israeli malware campaign using ad bids to specifically target itself towards Starlink users. There's nothing about Starlink itself being complicit.

    I'd think if Starlink wanted to surveil their users (they probably do) they could find a more direct route than this (they probably have).

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  • [–] 94 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    All ad networks are malware distribution networks.

    Adblock is the new antivirus.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    I heard adblock was sold to advertising interests, and some of the creators that were against selling it made the content blocker ublockorigin, which works better than adblock ever did. Undetectable by websites too unlike adblockers.

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    [–] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    A lot of "duh" comments indicating people didn't read... The headline could be better too but it doesn't excuse commenting without even engaging the post...

    Also, even if it was what people think it is, it's important to have evidence and journalism highlighting that evidence.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (2 children)

    I read the post and it's still a "duh." Of course, other countries will exploit the systemic corruption in our system. It makes a lot of sense for governments in non-Starlink countries to target Starlink users on their territory because those are basically guaranteed to be spies or saboteurs. And yeah, ad targetting isn't exactly a new tactic. I just don't get how agents are not using uBlock Origin. Don't they get some basic computer security best practices course?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    You could call anything a "duh" with that argument....

    I will say, I've taken a TON of basic cyber security corporate run training events... NONE of them talk about using ad block hahahahah.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Yeah, maybe i am a bit biased. And you should definitely tell them to add ad blocking and awareness of targeted and dragnet malvertising to their courses. Blocking ads should also increase productivity by reducing distractions and cognitive load when using the web.

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  • Noooooo. Ya don't say.

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  • [–] 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    I'm glad this is coming to light, but.. duh

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    [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    NOOOO YOU DON'T SAY

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  • [–] 20 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    wasnt it obvious form the start? and since 2022, im not surprised its heavily rolled in RURAL area and red states.

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    [–] 19 points 4 days ago

    Put musk in prison

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Hey guys, I just heard water is wet. There's news all over. Why are we just picking on a musk owned company? Obviously Musk cares so little about his test subjects he also tallies what shows they watch and websites they visit, like Facebook. Every company under the sun is tapping your conversations, looking at your phone, listening to your music. Nothing you do is private, Starlink or otherwise.

    Get VPN and even then its not so cut and dry.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 days ago

    Ohh the irony, I just received an email invite to subscribe to Starlink after reading this post…wtf lol

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Is this why they want to use Starlink for mobile phone service and sell the infrastructure to telecoms?

    Sell the service cheaply to telcos, hope they invest less in ground infrastructure and couple of decades later you can spy on every citizen.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (10 children)

    We need to nationalize Space X and Starlink, and imprison Musk.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (9 children)

    Alternatively, we could reinstate NASA's funding, and come up with an actually sane way to get Internet service to remote areas that doesn't involve what is essentially "space littering". Putting thousands of satellites into space for something that can be done way more practically on the ground makes every future thing you do in space harder, and severely hampers land-based astronomy. They have to track every nut and bolt in orbit for as long as they stay there, or one of those things will blow something to smithereens, even if it is small, like a literal nut or bolt.

    We're letting private entities potentially trap our children here on Earth by failing to regulate and enforce what can be up there. If you envision a future with space colonies and exploration, SpaceX and Starlink are not how you get there. I'm sure its doing a great job letting yokels in the swamp watch foxnews.com though, so there's that.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    I’m shocked, shocked I say!!

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    You'll never guess the country who made and distributed the spyware ads...

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    It's China, right? I keep hearing about how China is the only country that ever spies ever. /s

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago

    Discover-Tech, an Israeli advertising firm previously linked to the delivery of zero-click spyware, is the top bidder for Starlink ad impressions in 105 countries, according to a new report from Reuters.

    Who could have seen this plot twist coming. Absolutely blindsided, that's me.

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    [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    Kell soup reeze.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago

    Utterly unexpected

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Lol, but also, everyone should be using DNS over HTTPS.

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