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[–] 12 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry, but sellers will NEVER let the price come down. It will take years, if ever that prices start coming down again. Also, there is almost zero chance the rich give up on their dream of replacing expensive employees with GPUs. Even if the market corrects a bit and washes out some weak businesses, the AI build out isnt going any where. There is money to be made replacing employees, and someone is going to make it, come hell or high water.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago* (1 child)

    "Even if the market corrects a bit" I think you have no concept on how large that bubble has become already. This could heavily impact the real economy.

    After the bubble implodes it will become much harder to finance such data centres, never mind that it will be much harder to find a place to build it, even with all the corruption in the world.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    I understand the numbers are truly staggering, but I've also been around the block enough times to know employers and investors will go to unbelievable lengths to save costs on labor. If the 1% believes AI is going to cut labor costs, then nothing will stop them. Nothing.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago

    Not waiting to build and I still want it to die

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  • [–] 87 points 1 day ago (15 children)

    Now post the meme where prices stay the same and everyone is confused.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    Stay the same? Oh, sweet summer child. There's a story posted this morning about PCB prices skyrocketing now due to AI. Lasting out till 2030. This roller coaster ride is only getting to the wild bit.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    I mean that they aren’t going to fall along with the stock, that prices will remain high regardless of supply or demand, because the new world order is “you’ll pay what we say.”

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Oh, I absolutely agree. I'm only saying that we haven't even stopped going up yet, and we won't for some time.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Guess we are gonna have to finally optimize our software to run on less while still being efficient.

    Sorey, Electron.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It is a pretty good laugh to see Windows 11 and all of its old system requirements. Suddenly made a irrelevant as Microsoft Scrambles trying to keep themselves relevant. At one point it was 8-16 Gigabytes of RAM was the base. Now all of a sudden there are brand new Windows 11 laptops on the market with only 4 gigs.

    And it will still be a pretty shitty experience. You might be able to run a lot of the same applications, but I can guarantee you under Chrome you're not going to be having tabs plural open. Just tab.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    No demand is relevant for price is just that right now the demand is 400% of supply so a decrease in demand doesn't make much of a dent when they've just bought up the whole supply for a year. It will affect things in 2028.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    With unstable supply/demand ratios, prices are quick to rise and slow to fall.

    Prices can go up very easily as vendors charge more due to real or perceived scarcity and others raise their prices to match because they want to increase their profits.

    Prices only go down when one company tries to undercut its competitors, though. And, of course, they only undercut their competitor's price by a little, because they still want to make as much profits as possible. This will hopefully result in a back-and-forth competition of trying to undercut one another and steal market share from the other by offering a lower (but still profitable) price. But unless the market is extremely volatile and liquid, this back-and-forth takes time, leaving consumers to wait while the next company contemplates its next price cut.

    And that's the optimistic scenario, assuming there's no oligopoly and no price collusion. If either of those are in play (and they often are), then prices will only go down if a new competitor enters the market.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    Of all the things that could go up, PCBs were absolutely not on my list.

    What is it? Has copper shot into the sky?

    (Bonus interview today from stock traders into how AI is going to take over the economy and stocks will never fall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POys36tQh80 - important point to keep in mind while watching that none of the AI companies have any earnings, so they have a negative P/E.)

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  • [–] 33 points 1 day ago (11 children)

    Joke’s on them! I’m using my 2019 laptop until it’s dead and buried 😭

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Saying hi from my 2013 Dell XPS 13" laptop (8GB RAM).

    No I didn't dig it out to make a point. It's my main laptop.

    It's had Arch Linux on it for the last 13 years, and I haven't really noticed things getting slower. There are some websites that make Chrome chug, but if I stick to sensible ones things are just... normal.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    I have a couple from 2009 still chugging along. Seriously, for a little web browsing and basic YouTube. They're more than adequate.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Slap a low-resource Linux flavor on them and they’ll keep going for years! I’m running Nobara and love it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I currently have one of Action Retro's favorite distros on there. A little MX Linux. Before that, I had the latest beta of haiku. Which I really liked, but was having some graphical issues. ATM though thinking about nura x86. It makes KDE plasma almost almost usable on 4GB of ram with an arm tablet I have. I figure 10-20 bucks to double the DDR2 in it and it should feel almost modern.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    Are you absolutely positive that DDR2 would set you back only 20 bucks?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (2 children)

    Depending yes. Was looking on eBay. Couple years ago would have been so much less

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)

    go look again. and make sure you're looking at 1x4gb or 2x4gb kits, not bullshit with 2x2 or 4x1 like they so often end up being. 2gb modules are 10usd or less, cuz nobody wants them for upgrading. but ddr2 sodimm 4gb modules are 30-40usd each. that's today, tomorrow? who tf knows but it won't be less.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    Also still using my 2016 tower PC. The only thing slowly getting its way is new software using x86-64v3 instructions which I did not knew was a thing till the Mario Kart Wii PC port did not run :(

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  • I'm so unbelievably happy that I had the good sense to buy some desktops with 32gigs of RAM prior to 2023.

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    But personally, I prefer the Lorax that wasn't used to sell SUVs.

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    I built one. It's a Waveshare RP2350-pizero with added 8MB PSRAM to emulate a 386 DX. I installed MSDOS 6.22 on it, and I'm waiting on a I²S audio chip to emulate a Soundblaster for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    Stocks or not, they will say the data centers will be needed for national security and mass surveillance.

    How will we ever be able to survive without an omnipresent bot watching and judging everything you do.

    Look at the lengths they are going to just to get some red cows to sacrifice, hoping its a step towards judgment day. what do you think they will do to create what they can call God to use and judge everyone .

    I'm not a scientist, these are just some thoughts I think about when trying to sleep

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    It was inevitable

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