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[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Do we see mastodon posts here on Lemmy?

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 4 points 5 hours ago

Yes. You can easily spot them, either with masto in the name of the user instance or from the fact that the post or comment will contained mention in the @user(orcommunity@instance format.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Yep all the time.

Piefed you can subscribe to individuals like they are communities. Works really well.

[–] FrChazzz@lemm.ee 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like the majority of people I see quit Mastodon do so because the platform (and Federation in general) don’t coddle their egos. With no algorithm to game and ingratiate themselves on everyone’s timelines, they make a public exit and talk about how broken Mastodon is and offer their takes on what it needs to be. Which, unsurprisingly, sounds like a non-Elon-ed Twitter.

I love Mastodon. I love discovering new people and accounts by happenstance (and not spoon-feeding).

[–] technohippie@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

We may have to just accept that it won't ever be a big platform for this very reason and just have fun there as a niche site.

[–] SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yup, that's a major reason why people didn't want to leave twitter. They'd built a following that they didn't want to rebuilt.

I know people who hated elon Musk and had accounts on other microblogging platforms, but continued to post on twitter because that's where they got their fill of engagement.

Shifting away from reddit to lemmy is fundamentally easier than it is from Twitter to mastadon. I think it's part in due to the nature of the type of social media platforms they are.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

some weird wannabe social network with no large corporation behind it and no VC money in the bank cannot work, should not work, will not work.

techbros can’t even imagine something working without capitalism, they truly have no imagination… no wonder they made genAI

[–] oakward@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

I really hope you are right. I currently predict some issues with the scalability of the fediverse, maybe due to ignorance. If the majority of people switch their social media to the fediverse, the current volunteer hosted infrastructure will crash. Such infrastructure is not cheap to maintain and donations may dry out at some point. Specially for pixelfed, loops and peertube. The fediverse may run into trouble without easy self-hosting solutions

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Imagine if someone teaches them about volunteer work

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which is crazy because like... you think they would have heard of linux before

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 19 hours ago

tbh these people would probably say linux is too niche anyways

but, like, imagine a project that's entirely free, backed by donations, fully open-source, and so successful that it's name has become a generic term for what it is. a project so successful that basically everyone who's ever been online has used it and uses it frequently. a project so ubiquitous that almost everyone takes it for granted.

too bad that doesn't exist!

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm glad I read the article, the dripping irony and mockery in the title for some reason didn't trigger for me until I actually started reading. The idea that someone who considered Google Plus the "next big thing" has any ability to predict the success or failure of social media platforms is indeed pretty comical.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is probably controversial, but Google Plus was better than Facebook in every way.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

Not that high of a bar, but I agree

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I joined Google Plus with a group of a couple dozen friends from a long-time online community, and many of us loved it! As i recall the biggest issue at launch was that you couldn't push a pay to a circle and still leave it discoverable on your timeline, without pushing it to everyone. That kinda made it more insular than it should've been. Slowly we all stopped because no one else (family, friends,) was joining.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, same. I tried getting people to switch, but it was like pulling teeth. It's even worse now, even with all the Meta Zuckerberg Trump bullshit and the obvious privacy problems.

The circles feature was awesome. Could post stuff for specific groups of people. Sometimes your posts aren't for all your friends to see.

At first Diaspora seemed to propose a good alternative to Facebook ang G+. It has "aspects" which work similarly to circles. And the interface is similar to Facebook's. However, it didn't take off as much as anyone would've expected.

Now there's also Friendica which closely resembles Facebook, but it appears limited in functionality. It looks more like a Facebook-UI to the fediverse, like Mastodon is a Twitter-UI to the fediverse. ~~It's missing the whole "circles/aspects" feature~~, and we still don't have the groups feature either, which I think is very useful and much appreciated by Facebook users.

EDIT: Actually I just double checked and it does have circles actually.

[–] kudra@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm hoping to start a Friendica instance, it's been around for a long time and actually has events, which is something NO other social network has managed to add and one of the main reasons people I know who don't like Facebook will feel compelled to use it, there's no other easy way to create and invite people to events.

I also tried to get people to try G+, before that Diaspora, and neither got many people interested: but I think Fedi has now proved its not going away. There needs to be sustained local push to relocalise communities, this is happening in a few places, and enough nontechy people are starting to really understand the danger of FB and the silo mentality.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

Oh that's interesting, I didn't know it had events,

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 1 day ago

I completely get that someone used to monopolies can't understand Mastodon. I don't think it has anything to do with understanding technology, though.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A nice read. I have the same opinion of the so called “tech journalists” here in Denmark. It’s crazy how little they research or know about the subject they write about.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I remember during the initital wave of twitter refugees, a zdnet article covered bluesky and threads with glowing reviews, and then completely missed the point on mastodon, signed up for two servers, got no application back (waited 2 days) and has no idea what federation is.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 18 points 1 day ago

"Tech" journalists spend way too much time in the headlines of other outlets, getting a much too shallow idea of the actual tech that they're supposed to cover. It's quite sad that this is the state of so-called tech journalism.

[–] EuroCentrist@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If a company called TikTok can survive and thrive, surely one called Mastodon can too.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Let's not kid ourselves the user experience is much much nicer on tiktok than on Mastadon.

[–] Condiment2085@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Wow a really well written article. Not too long - proves it's point well - and ends nicely.