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Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I strategically refrain from alcohol or other drug consumption. And my life has improved drastically ever since.

Whatever the reason that you feel you have to abuse drugs as a coping mechanism, it will only make things worse. You will not be able to process your emotions, you will not be able to think clear about what is your best way forward and you will not be able to grow stronger while drugged up.

The fact that you say you "needed to be anesthetized" for an uncomfortable conversation screams that you are either already having a drug abuse problem and that you have issues with your emotional regulation.

[–] Jmsnwbrd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I am glad this is working for you, but not everyone has the same caustic relationship with recreational drugs that you do. Alcohol has been around since over 5000 years BC, but somehow you and a great deal of others have gone on this mini "prohibition" movement and have it all figured out. Good for you, but let's not let this turn into a new movement where "I know better than you" becomes an excuse to tell others how to live their lives. Prohibition in the US started just like this.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago

I know everyone in here’s saying no but I do. If I’m going to a social occasion I might have a drink beforehand; not much, just enough to feel it. I’m not the most comfortable in social situations and a beer can just take the edge off. I don’t get drunk or anything and I’d only do it if there’s going to be alcohol there anyway.

I also drink sometimes to help me sleep. I have ADHD and I struggle to switch my brain off. Sometimes I hit like 2am and if I think I need it I have a bottle of whisky downstairs that I’ll go and have a drink off. Again, just enough to feel it. I have pills and medicine that help me sleep, and they work also, but they leave me feeling groggy the next day. With a little whisky I don’t even feel it the next day and it seems to work just as well. I don’t do it too often, maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 90 points 23 hours ago (19 children)

Hey man, I downvoted but i wanted to tell you why. My family has multiple alcoholics. I’m not judging you at all, but i a wanted to encourage you to find other coping mechanism. Alcohol is very dangerous, especially when used that way. Be safe, bro.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I understand, more of an AUD dude and its welm-managed, especially since ive been low sugar

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[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 4 points 13 hours ago

PSA to the youngs who see Box of Wine and think QUANTITY.

Box of wine actually stays best longest because the tapped bag doesn't take in O2 and start to sour. So box wine is usually pretty par for paced domestic drinking and cooking.

I'm sure someone has smashed the box, but they also serve people who are more likely to leave the last glass in the bottle too long.

Bought Box does not mean Drank Box.

[–] underreacting@literature.cafe 16 points 19 hours ago

Sure, but I was also an alcoholic. Very high functioning, but still at the end 100% dependant on it.

The slope is so treacherously flat, you don't feel yourself slipping. I still have no idea how I ended up where I did, or for that matter how I ended up actually managing to quit.

I'm sure some people can use liquid courage without it turning into depending on it to do the hard things, then more and more things turning hard and needing a boost to do it, or can wash away work with a drink at the end of the week, without having to wash it away at the end of every day, and then having a quick rinse-and-reset at lunch, and so on... But it's impossible to know which one you are until it's too late.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I mean, you could call it strategic, or you could call it relying on substances as a crutch to manage your emotions.

I'm not saying that's always bad, necessarily. There is the school of thought that it's just a tool, like in your edit. But, it's important to remember it can become a habit.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Short answer... no. Long answer... Noooooooooooooooooooo

[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago

No, but I don't drink strategically. If you need to have a hard conversation or do something difficult, you should probably have your whole brain in use.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 25 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Yes, millions of people for thousands of years have done something like this. It's called liquid courage for a reason. I used to give myself exact small doses of alcohol to loosen up my introversion before social situations. If your job depends on it, it's basically a performance enhancer.

Not promoting alcoholism here, despite what I'm sure lots of comments will say. Personally, I barely drink at all anymore because it's gotten really hard on my body. Just giving a different viewpoint. There's so much addict pearl-clutching in here. Plenty of people can and do use drugs and alcohol responsibly. If you "don't need" them, great. If responsible doses help you live better, great.

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[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 19 hours ago

I've been doing "tipsy chore day" for a while. Do a chore > glass of wine > do another chore > glass of wine.... I may as well finish the bottle > do a chore > final glass.

Chores are less boring, and you push through them to get your next glass. Has to be wine though, beer I don't get a buzz going, and spirits have me incompetent.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago
[–] Typewar@infosec.pub 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Hmmm, may drink strategically to dodge rules like no self brought alcohol on the festival, or a way to feel the effect good enough before needing to run to the bus.

But to deal with drama? No that I'm taking fully in so I can learn from it if something similar happens again

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Using alcohol as a method to resolve personal problems can be a very dark path. Please be careful.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Lots of people warning you about alcoholism. Idk. I drink coffee strategically every day, and that's a drug. But also yes, I sometimes drink alcohol strategically. If I know I'm going to hang out with my sister who I love but disagree with on many many things, i have a drink or two. I try to dull my brain just enough that I am too slow to get offended at every single thing (or just don't care to, maybe?) in the end, we have a great time, I don't get all debate-ey with her, and instead just appreciate the good things about her. We don't see each other that often so I genuinely don't see any danger from this coping mechanism.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago

A caffeine addiction and an alcohol addiction are two completely different beasts though.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Anxiety is necessary sometimes. It’s fine to be anxious and it’s ok to be uncomfortable. You are having trouble managing your anxiety seek a therapist. Alcohol will trick you into thinking it’s a solution. Be careful, this is very similar to how my alcoholism and my fathers started.

[–] Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago (13 children)

This is how you become an alcoholic.

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[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I do this every time I go visit my father. His wife is a crazy narcissistic loon and I just cannot fucking stand being around her, so I drink when I'm there because it's the only way I can tolerate being around her. But my dad drinks with me, so I dunno, our relationship has been so strained and awkward for so long, I think we both do it to ease some of that tension.

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, I strategically drink every day

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a strategical drinker!

[–] zout@fedia.io 1 points 7 hours ago

LOL, this reminds me of an old viral clip in the Netherlands, where a woman stated "my husband is not an alcoholic, just a standard drinker." The husband then proceeded simming up his standard drink behaviour, which amounted to something like three beers and seven shots of jenever each day.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago

Yes, my strategy is I don't drink and in turn I don't get hangovers

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

These days i rarely drink but a glass of wine with some pasta now and again goes down a treat

[–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 3 points 19 hours ago

I do, but the other way as I'm getting old and can't down them like I used to. Met up with a mate to watch the F1 in the pub garden on a sunny Sunday, just had a couple of halves as I still wanted to try a number of new drops

Though I completely understand using alcohol to loosen up a bit, for numerous social situations. Definitely used it more that way in my younger days, to varying degrees of success

[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I had the opposite situation several times. Conversations that involved fair quantities of alcohol derailed gradually, and afterwards I realized everyone's attitude had shifted in a more aggressive direction, including my own. So this wouldn't be a useful strategy for myself 😊.

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[–] pm_me_your_innie@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 23 hours ago

I have a drink before my DnD sessions as it loosens me up and brings me out of my shell a bit. I imagine that could be called strategic drinking.

As long as you're not relying on alcohol just to get through the day, and you can function well in your life without it, there's nothing wrong with having a drink before a tough conversation.

Humans have been using alcohol as a social lubricant for thousands of years. That doesn't make it safe, but it's also not a great evil, in moderation.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 4 points 22 hours ago

Oh absolutely. I don't drink much outside parties (less and less nowadays) but I like having a stiff drink sometimes before doing something laborious or something requiring a bit of creativity. Nothing like a glass of whisky while messing around with the homelab servers.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 23 hours ago

That’s a sign of unmanaged dependency.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I like to have a drink but hard NO to doing it before anything important. I strongly prefer to feel clear headed for those moments.

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

Yes, I barely if ever drink alcohol. I'm not social and hate talking to people or crowds, I'm also pretty ND so I can't fake or pretend I give a shit about what other people are talking.

Alcohol helps a lot, if I have to meet whoever and their friends and they're asking me about work or how I would design an app that does blah blah I definitely need to be like 4 beers in to tolerate that conversation.

That being said I don't drink for things like school presentations or other events that require me to speak, like conference stuff. I just bite the bullet and it sucks, but I'd rather be sober and speaking coherently than feeling like I am.

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