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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

everyone replying that socks have a practical use, as if social constructs arent practical???

my issue is that even though "clothing" is a social construct, the stuff that socks are made out of is not. calling that stuff a sock is a social construct, but choosing to put the fabric on your body is not. becoming "clothed" is a social construct, but the unspecified uncategorized state of having that fabric on your body is just a physical state, not a construct. the meaning we apply to it is the thing that wouldn't exist without socially constructed systems of meaning.

It's kinda sad, i guess. I'm usually the first one to champion XYZ is a social construct, and have to deal with morons not understanding it, but here? no one is willing to say it?

Socks are not a social construct.

[–] mobotsar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

I get that it's a joke, but wearing socks is not a social construct-- it's a social convention, but it's utility is driven primarily by non-social factors. A social construct is an idea created and maintained by society specifically for its social function, which neither socks nor the act or wearing them nor the idea that wearing socks is good, are.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Vegetables are a social construct too.

Afaik, botanically, there is no such thing as a "vegetable". Only fruits. What we perceive as "vegetable" differs between cultures worldwide.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

The botanical definition is just "edible parts of a plant". The culinary definition however does differs per culture.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Your feet are nasty. I don't need to see them.

Also. The world is nasty. Go raw dog the world and see how long you make it

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

Your feet are nasty. I don't need to see them.

Then don't look.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Aren't hands much more nasty?

[–] Aristoxene@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

Health care is a social construct too.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Not that I advocate violence, but not beating your kids, selling them on the street, or making them work in a factory is also a social contract.

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Contract yes, as it pertains to laws, but I would argue construct no- since protecting one's offspring is a natural/biological impulse. It's non negotiable from a survival viewpoint, and some people have better survival instincts than others.

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You cannot invoke biology to generalize here. There are many mammals who use their offsprings as projectile decoys when they are in danger.

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Typically those are mammals with larger litters and shorter gestational periods. Human offspring are too resource intensive to be widely used as decoys.

This is a weird conversation.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are homo sapiens one such mammal?

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

As long as one person in history has done it once, yes. Just because people around us doesn' do it, doesn't mean it's not "natural". I don't know how tribes with 11 disposable children behave.

We used to be night active but if you ask anyone nowadays they'd act like waking up to the sun is THE "natural" thing.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I let my kid go all flower child about the socks. he got athletes foot. Socks SPECIFICALLY are not a social construct. they prevent athletes foot.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Hygiene IS a social construct, but that doesn't mean it isn't there for a good reason.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 hours ago

That's only if you include pointless hygiene like shaving legs and armpits. You'll legit get skin issues, infections, and possibly attract pests if you don't wash your ass.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Not all social constructs are bad.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Hygiene is not a construct regardless. I swear people just go on the internet and say things.

hygiene, engaging in a practice until hygienic, is a construct. the act of scrubbing your skin might not be

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'd say hygiene is a construct. From that wiki article:

As mind-dependent objects, concepts that are typically viewed as constructs include the abstract objects designated by such symbols as 3 or 4, or words such as liberty or cold as they are seen as a result of induction or abstraction that can be later applied to observable objects or compared to other constructs.

With this in mind, hygiene itself cannot be seen directly, and thus abstract. We can see the effects of hygiene (such as a clean body, lack of body odor, or opposite of hygiene, such as athlete's foot or other diseases), but we cannot see hygiene itself.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I can see my maxi pads.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Good point, kid, and here’s another one: those toys you want me to buy you are a social construct. Playtime? Yep. Social construct. Shall I keep going? Video games are next.

[–] Leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the time I saw people arguing on Reddit about the phrase "time is a social construct" where some people were completely incapable of understanding what that means and conflating the concept of time with the fundamental physics thingymcgee (idk how to call it and entity feels wrong).

People were trying so hard to explain that minutes, months, seasons, etc. are all arbitrary things made up only for them to retort with "but a year is a full rotation of the sun" or "seasons exist because that's how the planet changes its climate".

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

the fundamental physics thingymcgee (idk how to call it and entity feels wrong)

Your not wrong, "thingymcgee" is the technical term but it's still a social construct just like gravity.

[–] recked_wralph@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It is a social construct, and we live in a society… so put your damn socks on

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Socks have a practical use, they wick sweat away from your feet - this is practical in low temps where you will wear a cotton sock with a wool sock on top of it

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[–] tino@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

with this heat wave, wearing any clothes is also a social construct.

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some social constructs serve a purpose.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I like Max Stirner's perspective. Like you said, they can be useful - but we can also give them too much authority over us. It's important to be aware of that.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Parents feeding their kids is also a social construct. The Ancients tossed their kids in the salt mines quite early.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The children yearn for the mines

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago

"Attitudes against smacking children are also a social construct..."

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

'Your allowance is a social construct, so I guess we won't be doing that anymore..."

[–] figjam@midwest.social 37 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Socks serve a practical purpose when combined with shoes. They prevent rubbing (blisters) and they keep the skin cells and oils from your feet from the insides of your shoes.

Shoes serve a practical purpose in that they protect your feet from rocks, glass, and hot pavement. Did our ancestors need shoes? No. But humans have made our environments less friendly to bare feet

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Our ancestors DID need shoes. Footprints in South Africa dated to be between 75K and 136K years old show footwear in use. We invented shoes possibly 100,000 years before we invented written language.

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nick sounds like a dipshit if he can't figure out how to argue against socks being a social construct.

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Having a parent who clothes and feeds you is a social construct too. Funny how people think that "social construct" means that something is bad or should be dismissed when none of us would be here without social constructs.

At least this time the argument is being made by the only age group where I would give them a pass for being stupid. Unless that kid is past the age of 12, that is.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

I think the point is the fact it's a social construct on its own is neither pro or against the thing itself, rather that it can/should be able to be questioned.

Yes wearing socks is a social construct, but it provides inherent benefits such as reducing the smell produced by your feet and lingering in the shoes. It also helps protect your feet further in some ways then just a shoe alone would.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 191 points 1 day ago (29 children)

Socks keep your shoes from absorbing sweat and help prevent blisters. They’re useful beyond the social construct.

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something being a social construct doesn't mean it's not real, or ignoring it won't negatively affect you.

Laws, money, etc. are all social constructs.

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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Many things are social constructs, but we also live in social groups

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

With clothing specifically, it generally has a purpose. Socks can make you more comfortable, warm up your feet, pull sweat away from your skin and generally reduce odors... Not all of those in all cases, mind you, but depending on the circumstances and the type of sock, any/all of these could be the case.

Undergarments in general have similar stories.

All undergarments also play a role in keeping your over garments cleaner. Changing out your underpants and throwing on yesterday's jeans can get you through a day with nearly no compromises... Depending on how dirty your jeans get on an average day.

Over clothes protect you from getting dirty to a limited extent, they'll block/absorb spills that reduces the amount you have to wash/bathe/shower... It's easier to just throw on a new shirt than get into the shower and clean yourself up. Same with pants and other over garments.

Outerwear usually provides a protective element, eg jackets can help prevent things like thorns from scratching you, or keep you warm in cold weather, or dry in wet weather...

Clothes, to me, are a useful thing to be wearing, each piece serving it's own small function, all of it coming together to create a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts.

There's plenty of social constructs, this is true, but clothing definitely has a practical purpose, along with so many other things.

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