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A long sliver of federal land along the U.S.-Mexico border that President Donald Trump is turning over to the Department of Defense would be controlled by the Army as part of a base, which could allow troops to detain any trespassers, including migrants, U.S. officials told The Associated Press.

The transfer of that border zone to military control — and making it part of an Army installation — is an attempt by the Trump administration to get around a federal law that prohibits U.S. troops from being used in domestic law enforcement on American soil.

The officials said the issue is still under review in the Pentagon, but even as any legal review goes on, the administration’s intent is to have troops detain migrants at the border.

Troops are prohibited from conducting civilian law enforcement on U.S. soil under the Posse Comitatus Act. An exception known as the military purpose doctrine allows it in some cases — but would not apply here and would likely be challenged in the courts, said Elizabeth Gotein, an expert on presidential emergency powers at the Brennan Center for Justice.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This won't turn into a gigantic problem. Nope.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, the torture camps already exist, and they don’t appear to be problematic in any way whatsoever. It’s going to be smooth sailing from here on out. Nothing could possibly hit the fan at this point. It’s just physically impossible.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Indeed, there isn't more shit to hit the fan, that hasn't already been sprayed on people's faces and no one seems to bat an eye.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 2 points 3 weeks ago

If the fan is buried under a mountain of fecal matter, there’s no way you can hit it with more turds.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

What're the ROE on this? Also, the coyotes will just find another route, there's plenty, or just tunnel the migrants along with the drugs.

You want to stop illegal immigration? Open the borders, put migrant labor in contact with ag businesses, give them work visas, tax their income and legislate their working conditions. First 3 years of good behavior give them a visa extension every 6 months, after 5 years of good behavior give them a green card, after 10 years they're naturalized citizens. If they are sentenced with a crime through the civilian court system deport them. They're gonna have a difficult time making it back here as they'll already be in the system.

This increases taxes, secures the border and takes care of population decline, funds social security and helps us have a steady flow of skilled and willing labor.

But this isn't about common sense, this is about racism and keeping out the other.

[–] wraithcoop@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

racism and keeping out the other

Partially right, it is racism but they want the most vulnerable people to attempt to immigrate illegally (with no other choice, mind you) so they can detain them to use as defacto slave labor. Or just murder them, whichever seems more cruel. Remember, the cruelty is the point.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Work to death. Best of both worlds and the whole point of poor people.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Generally, the military is better about not shooting people than domestic law enforcement. But I think the goal here is to bypass due process and keep them away from civilian courts and oversight.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

It really depends on the mission, the rules of engagement, who is being tasked with purpose and previous interaction with the locals. Ramadi? That was shoot first ask questions later, Kandahar? Positive ID of a target was easier because of distance and "peace keeping".

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

It is almost like they are planning on concentration camps.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Concentration camps