Parenting

There are too many things wrong in this entire situation.

If you did not want children, you should not had let your partner pressure you into it. And that 5 figure she wanted tells me she was indoctrinated to be a brood mare, not an independent woman.

Have you tried your best? Are you still trying? Yes. But I risk things will only get worst in the future between you and your partner. Respect was broken; that is the worst that can happen in a relationship.

Regarding the child - and I am going to be cold and cruel here: man up.

That child did not ask to be conceived and born. Their entire world is you - again, because regardless your state of mind, you seem a lot more involved than the mother - and even though the connection isn't there, consider it a duty towards a completely defenceless human being. I'm not telling you to love them but to protect and care for them as if you were in their situation: show kindness and respect.

Which you seem to be showing and makes you a bigger human being.

There is no magic solution for this situation. Sincerely speaking, it wasn't the right time for that child to be born, if ever, but they're here now. Find a solution as adults.

I wish I could spare some face to face time to hear you out and give some real support but I fear we live in too far away parts of the world for that to happen.

Be brave and be honest, just like you've been doing and done here.

Also don't have kids, but some real red flag energy coming from the other side of this relationship.

Wants 5x the responsibility they can't handle now while also letting you wing it/handle all of this like a godamn champion? Pass.

my dude! It's just been 3 weeks! You easily have another 6 months or more of bad sleep. But seriously, did you have mental problems before the kid because it sounds you have some problems.

Also, for real, your wife is doing all the really heavy lifting here. She just had a kid. Her body is still a trauma zone! She possibly has post partum which is a very serious condition.

Chill. It gets much better after the first 9 months to a year. Once they start sleeping all night and stop nursing.

Step up. Get your sh1t together and push through the next year. Stop being a selfish spoil ass facker

Probably also should wonder if the child will enjoy any part of its life. Being born is a consentless act.

This is a super common and often unspoken phenomenon for fathers. It took me two years to feel emotionally attached to my first. Those two years sucked. It felt like all work, no reward. I powered through because love is a choice and I love my family. Slowly but surely, it happened. It happens for most of us. Especially as they start taking interests in the things we are interested in. You start seeing yourself in them - their looks and how they behave.

I am 99% sure you’ll end up loving your kids. I have three now. Just power through. You’re FAR from alone. Ask me if you have any questions.

There's nothing wrong with not feeling some life changing experience when holding your child. Some people do, some don't and it is a bit overplayed by people.

Taking care of a baby is hard work and tiring. It can be overwhelming for first time parents and I recommend you talk with your wife about it and look into sharing the workload better so you can both get some time for yourselves, you could also ask your mother or other family members to help watch the kid so you and your wife can get a night out and relax. It will help a lot.

As for the other feelings I would honestly advise you to look into getting some professional help if possible. You can talk to your GP about it and they they can advise you on what to do or recommend you to specialized help.

But yea, hang in there, it gets better and as the kid grows they will be able to take care of themselves more and your workload will get lower. Though I have to warn you that if you build resentment for them they will pick it up at some point and they will be crushed. It shatters my heart to see kid suffer like that.

Just chiming in real quick, don't have much time to write, i'm a father of 2.

It gets better my dear stranger. It actualy gets only better and better, it still amazes me.

3 weeks is just really the hardest part. But you have dedication (kudos on the breakfasts in bed) and you are not a violent person (how many times I have wanted to rip their head off lol) so you are already a great parent.

Parenting is just gross shit and hard work, but that's what we do, so let's do it really well. We owe it to ourselves. Keep on keeping on

I felt similarly to you, wasn't really naive about what was involved but when we got into it after the birth it was like a cold shower - I questioned what I got myself into and felt super negative about it all. Babies crying also just seems to have this awful effect of making my blood boil too - amplified by poor sleeping from getting up multiple times in the night. Had to learn where my limits are and when to take a break/lean on my wife. My wife wanted 3 originally, which turned into 2 after we realized what having a kid is like lol, 2 is still a lot in my opinion.

Suffice to say it was extremely unpleasant for a while. Eventually, the kid started to become more interactive and that helped me significantly at least. When you can get a smile or a laugh out of them helps a lot. Slowly gets better as I can have little conversations with them now. It takes a while for that stuff to start happening though unfortunately.

I empathize with your situation though, at the time it felt like all the thoughts and feelings I was having were wrong and I couldn't talk to anyone about it. It's frustrating when it feels like society is telling you you're supposed to feel a certain way when you don't. I wished my parents were more honest with me about what they were experiencing when they had me but I chalk that up to them honestly not remembering, so I swore I would do my best to remember how miserable it can get so I can be honest if my kids ever ask and they can make more informed decisions. I don't regret having kids, they do bring me a lot of joy and pride as they get older now, but I regret making the decision to have them so lightly is all.

For me it did get better but that thought (that I was never fully on board) may always be in the back of your mind.

We have 2. I was mostly up for it the first time but still had a lot of time in the first few months (for both kids) where, if I were typing my experience out, I also would have had to reassure people I was not violent. Very shortly after our second was born I got a vasectomy, which gave me some peace of mind.

The first 3 months were really rough for me, and then the next 3 were a little easier, and after 6 months they become humans and are a bit more interesting. Around a year when they start walking, and especially when they start talking a bit later it can be a lot of fun. But not all of it; there will still be incredibly frustrating moments where you’ll wonder why you got into it at all (which is obviously true of nearly anything).

So it does get better, especially once they get beyond the potato stage, and right now you just have to keep them - and yourself - alive (which isn’t too difficult, thankfully).

I have a 7 year old and can tell you your feelings are justified and not entirely unique. Father's have issues bonding and it takes time, at 3 weeks all the thing does is shit, eat, and sleep. Good on you for helping your wife with her post pardum and she continue to seek help with that. If it all begins to feel overwhelming, you should seek help too because men can also have post pardum, especially if the resentment builds and you begin having negative thoughts about neglecting the child.

All in all, the only thing I can really recommend is that you trudge through, lean on your wife a little more, she can probably take it, especially if you open up to her about your struggles. Sleep deprivation is a form of torture for a reason, but kids to begin to sleep better and have more of an emotional connection in the 3-6 month range.

Good luck.

Disclaimer: I don't have kids. Feel free to ignore.

As far as I know, this is not that rare. Maybe you could go a more practical route. It's not obligatory to have lots of instincts kick in, but it is expected that you take care of the kid. It is however likely that after a while that you'll get some neat experiences with the kid. Funny episodes. After a while they might even turn into a good friend.

Anyway. Hats off to you. Good luck

At three months, my son started smiling. That's when it got way easier. The post partum spouse care can be so hard - especially when there are complications.

Do you have any family (parents, siblings, in laws) you can ask for help? We basically had live in help for the first two months, I don't know if I could have done it without them.

Bonding happens over time no worries. But do try to relax a little more. When all you have is stress you cannot possibly enjoy the experience. Also thinking of the kid as a little you makes sense.

I have kids, 3 of them, did not want any. It gets better! It's normal to not fall instantly in love with them, even for the mother. It's a new person in your life and require that you adapt and change a lot of things.

It's not clear from your post what is exactly going on with your wife but postpartum syndrome is a reel thing and may be affecting her.

If you need help reach out to family and friends if that's possible. Depending on where you are in the world you may be able to find local support for new families, or even dad support groups.

I too dont have any kids but to me, this is a key point in a relationship. You not wanting kids and her wanting 5 maybe should have been a flag before having kids

That said, it is what it is, and you are in it now so get the best out of it

There are pris and cons to having kids. Try to focus on the good things

Just to chime in to add to the anecdotal stats. I really didn't feel anything with our firstborn until they were about 6 months old and started to develop a personality and was able to actually interact. I don't think I really felt a bond until like 9 months.

Maybe thats rare, but maybe not. I feel like most guys think they're supposed to feel something magical right away and just say that they do so they don't fell like an asshole explaining that they don't feel a connection right away.

Took me 3 months after birth to even start feeling different. I think men are slower than women with this.

Hate to put it this way but my read is in ten years you and that kid are going to be pretty close and I kind of doubt you'll still be with your SO.

Kind-of-not-caring-that-much is a pretty normal dad thing like others have stated. You show up, you be yourself, you do what you gotta do, there's no single "clouds open up and your entire brain floods with dopamine and seratonin while angels sing YOU'RE A DAD YOU'RE A DAD" moment.

But the fact that you can just be kind of normal turns out the be one of the things your kid likes about you. They start following you around or spending time with you to get some time away from Mom. They bring you little problems and you get to teach them things about the world.

And then you blink and they're a teenager and suddenly they're too cool to say "I love you Daddy" anymore and you aren't prepared for how much that hurts.

So anyway that's how it happens. Btw for what it's worth, I don't think it was just tiktok brainrot that gave your SO rose colored glasses about parenthood: evolutionary biology has its own ways to compel women to want to have babies just like it has its own ways to compel men to go along with it. That's... why we're all here.

First rule of parenthood: You have to want it.

You broke that rule. And yes, it sucks. But it's self inflicted.

The magic of holding your kid and feeling that connection either happens or it doesn't. Don't stress about it. It's normal regardless. It may be triggered by parenthood, but it's a personality trait.

You and your kid are practically strangers stuck with each other. You don't have to like each other, but you have to work together for the years to come. Over time, you'll grow comfortable with the other's presence and quirks. As the parent, you have the leading role, however over time that dynamic will slowly shift.

The point of this challenge you have so carelessly self-inflicted is to grow as a person through it. You don't have to know if you can complete the journey on your own, but whether you can accept your kid as a constant companion and strive to do so together.

You're the dad now. What did your dad do and what can you do better? Can you reach where he climbed or can you surpass him? And in doing so, will you understand him better as the person he was? Finally, what kind of person will you want your son to see in his heart should he ever attempt to make the same journey?

You've started to climb a mountain. It will be tough, there will be mistakes and nobody knows what you'll find along the way if anything, but as you've already noticed, all that waits behind you now is an unpleasant fall into an abyss you'll have to crawl out of eventually. And that will suck a lot more.

Good luck, pops! You're a role model now!

No, men don't even like their babies for the first three months. Mothers have already had 9 months to bond with the baby.