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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Too many armchair educators here. I literally teach a lecture on this as part of a class on students with disabilities. Key things about DoE:

  1. It's 4% of the budget and 2/3 of that is to subsidize higher education for middle and lower income families. For K-12, it's about 5% of the budget, as most funding is state (unfortunately usually by property tax, which generally fucks poor folk).

  2. To get that 5%, you need to play by DoE rules. That includes no discrimination, school must be free and accessible, and you need to follow IDEA, the law that gives students with disability access to an education. Without federal DoE, there is no standard requirement to accommodate kids with Autism, learning disabilities, and more. (Technically section 504 can still apply, but it's complicated. Private schools usually have that but not IDEA). Btw, about 100B + 20B for K-12 funds and disability, respectfully.

  3. DoE funds and conducts a ton of research that improves pedagogy, not just the standard NCLB achievement tracking but things like the ELS database that is one of the few sets with data from 10th grade all the way to age 30, to directly analyze effects of high school programs on long term success. My dissertation used that, and yes, those folks are probably super-illegal fired, USAID style. If you're wondering, it's 800M in grants and research, which is chump change.

Understand, this is as idiotic as gutting the IRS. Economics have found that return on investment is tremendous (8x to 60x depending on who you ask) because you reduce crime and expensive prison costs. Simply preventing a murder saves millions of dollars, and education is shown to do this (including the very same ELS data I mentioned!)

There's more that I can say, but if you have questions, I literally have a degree in education policy. Please ask!

[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So increase DoE funding and decouple schools from property tax funding?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But then how would

  • the private sector profit from education,
  • and the churches ~~indoctrinate the young and massively inflate their numbers~~ do their very important charity of education?
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The problem is that smart people don't vote republican, and the republicans need more brown noses.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting. Really leaning into that "uneducated people are easier to control"

"The proles are our only hope"

[–] tacofox@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Absolutely no sarcasm here, I suggest everyone look into PragerU to know exactly what’s to come for publicly funded schooling. It is terrifying, deeply disturbing, and harmful.

Just hear it straight from the horses mouth and peruse their YouTube channel. (Don’t forget to check out PragerU Kids)

https://youtube.com/@prageru

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The most annoying part is being called an alarmist for years, just for it all to become true.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Tell me about it... I still feel like I'm being gaslit when talking about this shit in any offline space. It's wreaking havoc on my mental health.

[–] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I'm not against homeschooling, it seems more like a privilege that I would say most families in the U.S. cannot have one parent drop out of the workforce to pursue.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'm absolutely against homeschooling. The overwhelming majority of it is evangelical Christian garbage.

Soon we'll be subsidizing it with our taxes (with zero oversight of curriculum of course).

[–] Random123@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There has to be a too long dont watch version..

[–] Scurouno@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Big Joel has done a number of videos critiquing PragerU: PragerU PragerU Kids

He's got more videos critiquing specific PragerU content as well, all from a couple of years ago.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can he just do this with an EO? Can the country ignore the EO until Congress ratifies it?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

No and yes. The country should be ignoring the President and congress should be defunding him. Starve the beast amiriiight!?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It feels like the whole reason for this is so that Christians can have their own schools not controlled by fed rules/laws. Self-segregation.

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

No. They absolutely want to push the bullshit onto the rest of us.