Not really disagreeing but how do we stop bots and fake accounts then? Bots/shill accounts have destroyed social media.
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I think about this all the time.
I would love a community of specific aged people.
Like I hate browsing the internet and suddenly it's "Am I (M19) overreacting because my mom (F38) hates my new girlfriend (F41) and their husband (V289)?"
Bro, I don't have those problems as a M40 with scope.
I think that’s less a bot problem and more a fake story problem. A lot of those stories are just creative writing exercise. Every once in a while it’s real but that’s very rare.
Human moderators.
Cuz that worked so well for reddit
This is literally what all of us who opposed the id verification for porn sites warned people about (not that most of lemmy doesn't agree). This was always going to happen. Foot in the door, passed legal hurdles, now the floodgates open.
You can bet your ass this is going to be standard for browsing most of the "major" internet sites by the end of the decade. What a mess.
who could have forseen this?
Keep telling people about Mastodon. Don't push them. Just explain that this is a result of BlueSky being VC funded and more will follow just like it did with Twitter, Facebook and so on. Add that Mastodon is open source run by multiple non-profits around the world so if one fails, the rest would pickup the slack. Conclude with - if they want to stop having to uproot their network every so often, Mastodon is their best bet for microblogging.
Any social media that wants my ID becomes history, you got no business with it and i don't trust you with it either.
As of late i've been leaning towards things like: "i really wish we didn't have mobile phones" employers have been overstepping boundaries imo ever since we have them and i don't want any of that. I'm yours for 40 hours, everything else is mine.
Along with how every device now comes with ads with some bullshit excuse, i really don't need ads in my home i'm already bombarded with them everywhere i go.
I'm still one of those: "i love seeing peoples interests through well taken photos" instagram users, before every post was an "influencer". Now instagram is: ad, actual ad, ad, ad, ad, actual ad. How the hell did we let that happen and why are people still looking at it...at least i wish it was just looking, with all the goddamn loud music and nonsense audio jumbled into one big mess to raoe your ears even though it isn't even you looking at it but some brainrotten child in a mcdonalds.
I'm getting older and grumpier i guess. I should just learn to live with it.
I'm just going to leave this here...
They always have the same excuse for authoritarianism measures don't they?
Think of the children, safety or terrorism
It has always been so really - it's a clever strategy really. It ensures you can be easily branded if you opposed it "don't you care about online safety for children", and ensures it remains in place as "government removes online safety for children" is a powerful piece of propaganda.
I keep meaning to team up with a sociologist and write a piece on this particular tactic; alas time gets away from me!
Terrorism in the UK is now when you oppose genocide so the mask has gone fully off
Not true; here is an active group legally protesting the war in Palestine: https://palestinecampaign.org/
Libsky is also enforcing the genocider censorship.
But it's no surprise, never trusted it to begin with.
It's to Blue MAGA what Twitter is to Red MAGA
Libsky - X
Blue MAGA - X
crazypeopleonline - trifecta
ohh bloomcole left lemmy.ml because they were blocked by too many people, time for a new block.
Mastodon.social the "main" instance also enforces genocide censorship according to multiple Lemmy users.
Luckily there is...
Twitter...........
And luckily I can do without all of them most of the time.
Sometimes unfortunately people post an X link and I can't see it.
Can't even make an account anymore, I'm on the (black)list.
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I've been telling people that Bluesky is just another Twitter, even started by a lot of the same people.
Skip the drama and use Mastodon.
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Bluesky is the reason I'm pretty much over with the idea of ever convincing people to worry about privacy, digital freedom or societal issues at large.
Twitter was bad, became even worse, people wanted to migrate - sure. We had Mastodon, which worked perfectly, was Federated, was open for subscriptions, it was free, had working third party apps and a community already. Barely anybody migrated.
Then Bluesky shows up, and it's the exact same technology, only more limited and with lesser freedoms... but because it's a commercial company behind it, people immediately chose it. The argument that people don't understand federation doesn't even work, because the promise that Bluesky was going to participate in the Fediverse was even part of the marketing material.
People CRAVE big tech. They're not victims of abuse or ignorance, they're willing participants that would rather be enslaved by a corporation than use any collaborative effort.
People CRAVE big tech. They're not victims of abuse or ignorance, they're willing participants that would rather be enslaved by a corporation than use any collaborative effort.
I don't disagree, but this is why I find it so exasperating how so much of the tech world, including the open source community in general, refuses to understand this in terms other than a nihilistic distaste for human beings in general.
What you are saying is that the tech specs that bluesky defenders listed in my face from the beginning, all along the continuum of bluesky diehards to people on the fence considering the tech.... all of that was NONSENSE from the perspective of evaluating the impact that the technology would have because the problem is political not technological.
I need to emphasize, that from the beginning most of the Bluesky support I saw was from technology minded people who are VERY smart at engineering systems and software but have the political awareness of an overconfident baby and refused to at the time look squarely in the eyes of what makes silicon such a globally hurtful force.
Now I am left wondering, as I thought I would from the beginning, why we wasted all that time on handwringing about how maybe this abusive relationship could work out with Bluesky. This time it will be different I swear I changed I won't abuse you for profits now I promise....
Look I am glad y'all learned your lessons... hopefully you did? This isn't just about useful idiots learning way too late into the game that Bluesky was always going to turn out like Twitter though, this is about why the tech community at large refuses to address political questions in an adult and mature manner that doesn't sweep anything that can't be easily categorized in digital, binary terms under the rug because it is uncomfortable to talk about in a professional environment.
Your nihilism is part of the same coin that has allowed companies like Microsoft to profit off genocide in Gaza while only a meager handful of Microsoft employees speak up and are thrown out and ostracized for their unprofessional behavior.
Stand up for your beliefs, stand up for humanity, don't cede a narrative that this universe is cynical to them without contesting it and demanding more evidence. I will not be convinced people are as generally bad as the ruling class wants me to believe, it is always a lie. Part of that for me is not letting them convince me people want this suffering because you can twist people's intentions, fears and motivations so easily into destructive ends... evidence you hold in front of me of people behaving in evil ways only illuminates the capacity of violence to spread like a contagion, it doesn't convince me humanity at large desires the state it is being subjected to.
Your comment is extremely weird because I did not defend, expect anything or debated Bluesky tech. To the contrary, I'm specifically pointing out that Bluesky was obviously bad and Mastodon should've been chosen instead.
My nihilism wasn't challenged, it was confirmed. People chose the bad option, they chose it again, and will choose another bad option in the future.
We had Mastodon, which worked perfectly
tbh several of my colleagues complained that they found discovering new content and/or content outside of their servers really hard, and the whole federation is just too complicated for not-technologically-minded people 🤷
(no personal experience because I don't use any microblogging platforms)
the issue with Bluesky is primarily the userbase. the vast majority of them want something that "just works" and if you provide them with alternatives they scream and reeee and all that. it's annoying. also annoying the constant unoriginal posts of "Mastodon is the Linux of social media" like it's some gotcha moment for them.
You blame Humanity's nature, and thus devalue the truly big difference, just one of these social networks has millions and millions invested in marketing.
It's clear that advertising has a lot of power to influence people's choices, otherwise oligarchs wouldn't burn so much money on it.
It’s clear that advertising has a lot of power to influence people’s choices, otherwise oligarchs wouldn’t burn so much money on it.
Marketing, advertising, etc. It's a science, a field of study. What is the goal? To make people buy things, ostensibly. How do they chose to do achieve that goal? Deep analysis of the human psyche and studying methods to manipulate them into taking intended actions.
Advertising is the science of psychological warfare.
Bluesky barely had any effective marketing at all. Their main push was word of mouth and the "exclusivity" of launching under a invite-only system. That's it.
But "oh, this big tech wants my data and not yours" was enough.
In a world full of bots where machines can pass the Turing test, how do you know if this word of mouth wasn't actually a marketing campaign? And not to mention the tons of influencers creating content that is often nothing more than advertising.
The "exclusivity" thing was surely one.
I constantly get downvoted for "blaming the victim" when I say that, but its true! If you have the power to do something, and choose not to, youre partially to blame...
I dont get how people can pont fingers then go buy the same product from the same asshole and act surprised...
I wouldn't immediately chalk up the success of private commercial operations over open non-profit ones to a slavish misanthropic outlook on humanity. Consider that with millions in investment capital comes millions in marketing budget, too. There's an information war and we're outgunned.
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