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submitted 1 year ago by MRLimcon@lemmy.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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What you’re refering to as Windows, is in fact, GNU/Windows, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another closed component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Windows”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Windows added, or GNU/Windows. All the so-called “Windows” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Windows.

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

blasphemy

[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This deserves a ban imo

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wtf how do you get bash on windows and is their theme really still called Aero and their WM "Explorer"????

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Git bash, also that screenshot looks like the Windows terminal app

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like cygwin to me

[–] Zhumos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's probably Msys2.

Msys uses /c/ for windows drives by default. Cygwin uses /cygdrive/c/ by default

[–] MRLimcon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I use msys2 (https://www.msys2.org/), it uses pacman as its package manager and has a lot of developer packages (so i can compile fortran and integrating it to python). It comes with bash and a terminal, but I used windows terminal and made a profile for using msys2's bash, the same on vscode. Then I installed neofetch (https://packages.msys2.org/base/neofetch) and just saw this hahaha.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Cygwin

[–] madeline@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

they forgot how to make an operating system 12 years ago, it's all windows 7 leftovers

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

iot version of windows using 4gb of ram on startup?!?! Oh fu... Looking at antix linux ram consumption and wiping sweat from forehead

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... The kernel is called NT, not Windows, but okay

[–] Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which would make it GNU/NT…

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GNU'nt

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Absolute GNU'NT

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not completely convinced that isn't Nick Offerman in a wig.

[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Windows online for 2 days and 15 hours without crashing or having to reboot for an update.

Clearly Photoshop'd. 🤣

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate windows as much as the next linux user but I have to admit windows has been very stable for me despite having uptimes in the months with my work laptop.

[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your preaching to the wrong crowd.

No Linux user is gonna go "perhaps your right, I should switch to windows for its stability"

You've had your work laptop run well for a few months with your on off daily usage. I'm sure there's many ppl here with various distros running for years without a single reboot.

Personally I have one running as a mediaserver that hasn't been offline in two years, and I'm sure that that's young in this forum.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't expect anyone to switch to windows, I'm just saying this myth about windows being unstable does not align with my experiences at all. I haven't even seen a blue screen since windows 7. All the weird behavior I encountered was fixed by replacing hardware, and without reinstalling windows. Sure, linux might run even longer without rebooting, but saying windows can't go past 2 days is just a gross exaggeration.

[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I literally turned on my work laptop yesterday and it blue screened on boot. (Win10). Didn't even get an uptime of 5 minutes. Its not a myth that windows is unstable (in comparison with Linux and macOS).

And B. Take a joke, clearly my initial post is taking the piss. Windows is less stable than Linux, simply a fact. Hence the comment so people can have a laugh.

[–] caustictrap@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My jellyfin server is on windows 11. It is stable for now. The day it crashes i will switch to linux.

[–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Bruh

[–] sar1n@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Delete this!

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

proudly showing off that GT1030

[–] rc_buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? I might have an old GTX970 I could part with if old boy here wants a drastic upgrade.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

😄 I just got a GTX 980 out of pity for free from a friend 🥳 first time 4k60Hz gaming in my live, lol

Now I just need to get wine/proton working. Steam titles already work 😍 but I have not get bottles (installed using yay) to work yet.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gtx 980 gang! I got mine free my from the dad of my ex back in like 2019

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

🥳have you tried Wayland with it? (Running Arch GNOME with proprietary drivers, but mostly Xorg due to gaming)

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a little bit, but due to gaming I stick with Xorg. also I just use i3wm nowadays which helps me get better performance in some games

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see 😄 I’ll remember that, if I have a game comming to it’s limit

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

baldur's gate 3 was really unstable with gnome for me, and the fps was like half of what it's supposed to be. but with i3 I get decent fps and it's really stable! I'm not that sure about other games because I havent been paying attention to the fps but I feel the performance is generally better. no other game has shown that drastic change though :D

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nice! I’m more the retro gamer😄 I love being finally able to play wii/GC upscaled to 4k 😁

Right now, I’m fighting with old windows games on iso to get them running (have tried with bottles and lutris without success) now I learned that one can run exe using steam, let’s see if I play rubiks games tonight 😂

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any idea why that would be? I mean RAM limitations could be the issue but otherwise im pretty confused as to why this might happen.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no clue. I've been wondering the same thing, since I have 16gb ram so ram shouldn't be the issue

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hmm with modern games like BG3 you might run into some limitations with 16GB. Online I'm reading that BG3 uses 25GB of RAM. Might be that the few MB a DE uses are just enough to kick something important into the swap file or something.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think that's it, I just checked out and the game only takes around 25-26% ram and it was running reasonably well with 4,5gb ram already taken. that 25gb ram sounds like someone is playing the game with 4k graphics or something. bg 3 lists only 8gb ram as mimimum requirement and 16gb is recommended

edit: I don't know if gnome takes up some grpahics card or cpu resources which affect the game performance since it's a lot bigger program than i3wm

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see, then it shouldn't be the RAM.

I've used gnome on a relatively new machine and it seemed like it was working fine. Maybe I just didn't notice the performance hit, or maybe it's the same with KDE. Definitely odd though.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

yeah it's quite odd. but at least I want to use i3wm anyways so it doesnt really matter