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[–] 213 points 2 years ago (11 children)

"No touchscreen" is a really great selling point imo

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    After reading the article and the website, I can't find anything that explicitly says there is no network connection built into the vehicle.

    The instrument panel is a screen, and will be used to display the backup camera video. There is some computer capable of handling video processing and displaying the instrument graphics - so more than just low-level electronics to handle the battery and drive control. It could have built-in GPS, it could have 5G, it could still be collecting and sharing data on driving habits &etc, it could be subsidized by that on the backend. Just because those functions aren't displayed to the end user doesn't mean they aren't in the system.

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  • [–] 151 points 2 years ago (53 children)

    Fucking FINALLY.

    I've been waiting for a small pickup like the old 90s 4-banger Toyota. And this is electric, simple for function, and actually affordable?

    Capitalists must be seething. If it doesnt have leather interior, 19 speaker surround sound, and cost 80k, get it out of our country! /s

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago (30 children)

    Small gas-powered trucks are effectively illegal in the US.

    It's regulation made in response to automakers calling everything a "light truck" to get around fuel economy and emissions standards in the 90s and 2000s.The straw that broke the camel's back was the PT Cruiser being classified as a truck by Chrysler.

    So, starting in model year 2012, vehicle fuel economy standards started being based on vehicle footprint. The side effect was that small, powerful vehicles designed for moving cargo more efficiently or in tighter spaces than large trucks were impacted. It's why 2011 was the last year model of the old Rangers, S10s, Dakota, etc.

    That's why the new Rangers are larger than the old F150s. They have to make them bigger to meet CAFE standards.

    Same issue hit the small cargo vans in 2021/22. As the CAFE standards went up, it became impossible to meet fuel economy standards for the NV200, Ford Transit Connect, and Ram ProMaster City compact cargo vans, so they were all discontinued.

    New York City was changing its whole Taxi fleet to NV200s due to their flexibility and accessibility options, and now can't buy new ones because a Toyota Camry has less-strict fuel economy requirements.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Don't get too excited about seething capitalists. Bezos is a major investor.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Relatively affordable. It is 20k after the federal discounts and kick backs. Meanwhile, the Chinese EV market has been making cars as low as 4k. https://greenspeedx.com/cheap-electric-cars-available-in-china/

    I'm not a pro China person (because one time in Ark, a Chinese team kept destroying my thatch base), but they seem to have the things. Apparently Mexico is aiming to compete in the EV market as well.

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    [–] 110 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    There’s no radio, no Bluetooth, and no speakers of any kind beyond for those required to play basic warning chimes.

    Many will consider this a cost-cutting step too far, but the interior was designed for ease of upgrading, with easy mounting space for anything from a simple soundbar to a full sound system.

    There’s an integrated phone mount right on the dashboard, but there’s nothing stopping you from bringing something even larger. I expect the low-cost Android tablet and 3D-printing communities to have a field day coming up with in-car media streaming solutions.

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    [–] 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    As an FYI, (In the United States) all modern cars will have to have some kind of screen (whether built in the mirror, on the dash, or as part of the gauge system) as all cars are required to have backup cameras as of 2018.

    Starting in 2029 all cars will be required to have automatic braking technology as well.

    We're never going to be able to purchase new cars that are completely dumbed down ever again, but with how many lives it will save I'd say it's worth it.

    I'm glad that there are some companies that are willing to offer cars with the bare minimum of features at least. I personally would prefer having automatic windows over crank, but if someone wants to save money more power(har har) to them!

    EDIT: weather vs whether Braking vs breaking

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    Way over-thinking it.

    Europe and Japan 10-15 years ago all had radios with 4x6 inch no-touch displays for pre-loaded GPS with no internet connection. They switch to backup cameras when in reverse.

    America doesn't need to invent anything here, this is old technology widely used by large parts of the rest is the world.

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    [+] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)
  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'd be surprised if people couldn't put in a simple and cheap aftermarket deck and a couple speakers, which would only be around a couple hundo. If these things are easy to work on so you can install it yourself, even better.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago* (15 children)

    There is also the Telo Truck. It's advertised as being as capable as a Toyota Tacoma, but the footprint of a Mini Cooper.

    It's asthetic is more akin to the small trucks in Japan, though.

    Edit: it does seem like it has more tech-forward features, but it is otherwise a relatively simple truck in a very manageable size.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I am excited, this is what my husband and I have been waiting for - a regular vehicle with no bells and whistles just to raise the price

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    (after federal incentives)

    :|

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It’s backed by Bezos. Wouldn’t even consider it for that reason alone.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (30 children)

    The design is bad. The front trunk is a bad use of space, and the Japanese figured this out decades ago with the Kei truck. If you want to see real utility, look at this design.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Damn, an electric truck I might actually want. It's a shame it's made in America

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Sign me THE FUCK up, have been looking at 90s danger rangers to sate my small truck fix but so many of them have a car-looking front end.

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  • [+] 23 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I find this minimalism strangely appealing. Unfortunately, I do not live on a farm. I hope this thing is useful to those who do, though.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I hate that Bezos backed them

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Features I look for in a car

    • 4 wheels
    • radio
    • power windows
    • reverse cam

    How hard is this?

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Crazy how so many people have been begging for bare bones, affordable electric vehicles.

    Then when one comes on the scene they do nothing but complain. Can't please anybody these days it seems.

    Edit: sp

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Definitely interested…

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    This is a truck I’d actually feel comfortable driving. Unlike those gender affirming, semi truck adjacent, embarrassing pavement princess trucks that you see everywhere now.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Please make a 4x4 model I will definitely buy one.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You know what... Give me an option for a bigger battery, and ensure that replacement batteries are going to be available for a while, and I'll definitely look into it.

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