https://fedi-search.com/ allows more than kagi :)
this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
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That and I'm not paying for yet another search engine aggregator (solves nothing SearX can't do for free) hosted in the USA that's pro AI slop.
They seem to do quite a bit of indexing themselves. A good alternative that's from Europe would be Qwant, but they don't have a feature for searching the fediverse. It would be nice if it got added to fedi-search :)
Qwant and Ecosia are building a search index, but I don't think there is anything that can really compete with Google and Bing at the moment: https://betterweb.qwant.com/en/2024/11/08/ecosia-and-qwant-join-forces-to-develop-european-search-index/
A European indexer would be nice!
The idea of searching had me thinking that it would be nice to have a search-focused instance that didn't defederate from any sites (besides the illegal stuff) and auto-subscribes to every new community so it has all the information possible. Then you could do "foo bar site:searchlemmy.com" and get an effect similar to reddit
Although that's probably unnecessary. But would be kind of cool
besides the illegal stuff
That's a slippery slope. Illegal in which country?
Something you (or I) may find perfectly fine could be heavily pushed back against and illegal in another legal framework.
Look at how abortion / LGBTQ+ rights / gun ownership / personal drug use etc etc etc change country to country.
That sounds like a pretty good idea, since most search engines don't play very well with the fediverse. Could be a good workaround. I'm wondering how expensive it would be to host something like that. Maybe someone with experience hosting instances could give an estimate?
You could likely do that with lemmy.world today. There's bound to be at least one user there subscribed to every niche.
I like lemm.ee is as close as you can get. AFAIK it’s federated with pretty much everyone and it’s got a very large userbase so nearly every conmunity is federated.
Wait, a large userbase is required for an instance to federate with every community? I thought you could host a single user instance but still be federated with everything that you don't explicitly block.
Remote communities don't federate until a user subscribed to them. There is this tool to automate it however.
When you create a new community, it will only be available to your instance. To make it accessible to other instances, at least one user from each remote instance must follow it.
This tool automates this process by following your community from all remote instances until it gains at least one real-user follower.
A community is only federated if someone on your instance subscribes to it.
Is that subscription based search engine that everyone talks about ?
Yes. Its 10 bucks a month though for it to be useful. There is a 5 bucks plan but its limited to only 300 searches.
So..... what's the difference from other free search engine?
You need to sign in to use it. Other than that, the results are more relevant and customizable. You can try it for free when you make a new account.
Just yesterday I cancel d my Kagi subscription because it is based in the US. I liked it though, for the few years I've used it. Also a lot of good progress going on.
I switched to Qwant as it is European.
Qwant is probably the best free search engine at the moment tbh
Cool! I've been looking at kagi for a long while but hadn't bit the bullet due to the cost. They did a month free trial thing recently and I've been using it since and it's been really nice. Think I'll stick with it.
I really like the ability to make custom lenses (like predefined groups of sites to search) and a built in way to block sites or change their priority in listings. Can do that to Google with extensions like ublacklist, but this way I don't need to export my settings to other devices.
I want to like Kagi but their partnerships with Brave and Yandex turned me away
Is there any search engine that isn't garbage and/or sleazy?