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Trump mobilizing up to 1,700 National Guards troops in 19 states in crime crackdown (www.the-independent.com)
submitted 2 days ago by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.nz/post/27209400

The Trump administration reportedly plans to mobilize up to 1,700 National Guard troops across 19 states in the coming weeks to support its immigration and anti-crime crackdowns, a dramatic expansion of the controversial operation that’s seen federal agents and Guard troops carrying out activities across Washington, D.C.

The troops, who will largely be activated across Republican-controlled states, will serve in support of the administration’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations, as well as other law enforcement priorities, according to comment from unnamed Pentagon officials and documents obtained by Fox News.

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[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So 89 troops per state? TF are they going to do? Respond to calls slower than cops? Stand near a peaceful protest? Guard a federal building? Learn to be detectives and work cold cases with their brigade while documenting their progress by producing a biweekly true crime podcast?

National Guard, by and large, does not want to be doing this.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

This isn't meant to solve anything. It's meant as a test to see if people will let him get away with it. Once it's normalized he can start his real attack.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Deployments reportedly set to take place largely in Republican-controlled states

This surprises me, I would have thought he'd do the opposite. He's doing it in areas more friendly to him first before escalating to everyone else, I guess.

[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Easier to normalize it in red states first.

[–] molestme247@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly, shit like this is more important than the Epstein files.

[–] molestme247@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

What a tremendous waste of resources, on brand for Conservatives.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago

Start with those on the frequent flyers list to Epstein island

[–] molestme247@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Did he try the white house first? Fuck the orange Nazi

[–] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder where this is going... /s

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Seriously question though, what is his end goal here?

I'm assuming this is out of the Project 2025 playbook somewhere.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

to distract from Epstein files, it has bothered him enough to throw whatever shit at the news to see what sticks. Also form the effects of the BBB.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

marshal law, no more voting, he told us as much in the run up "we're gonna fix it, you'll never have to vote again"

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Or Civil War, no election. He said it again last week.

[–] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago

Take control and install a dictatorship. Of a very close form of totalitarian regime. With elections only for rich white males, electing a rich white Christian male.

Reinstate slavery (prisoners working for free) to support the industry.

Regain control over Latam. Split the world with Russia (Europe), China (Asia). Keep the middle east and Africa unstable.

Stop free trade/exchange, etc. Put firewalls on the Internet to control who can access what.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You have the right and responsibility to refuse inhumane or illegal orders.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But frequently not the ability to survive doing so within a fascist regime.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I am well aware.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not a single nazi was punished for not following orders when it came to crimes.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes they were. By the ones giving the orders.

Like then, fascists will not just abuse and kill the intended victims. They'll also abuse and kill people for standing in the way or for refusing to participate in their crimes against humanity.

I'm not saying that it's not a good thing to resist orders that are both illegal and immoral, I'm saying that it's not automatically and instantly safe like you imply.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes they were. By the ones giving the orders.

Source? Your ass?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

You're asking me for a source on Nazis ever being punished for disobedience?

You ARE aware that I mean DURING and BEFORE what Robert Evans refers to as Dub Dub Dos rather than during the following trials, right?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They were absolutely punished by the people giving the orders. They weren’t tried for refusing during the Nuremberg trials, but the ones who blatantly refused during the war didn’t survive that long; They were quickly forced out of service, labeled deserters, or just outright killed for being Jew sympathizers.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Source fot that? I've never seen anything to confirm what you're saying.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

dw tho, this isn't like North Korea because this is america, this is God's Land