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Trump mobilizing up to 1,700 National Guards troops in 19 states in crime crackdown (www.the-independent.com)

submitted 3 days ago by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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The Trump administration reportedly plans to mobilize up to 1,700 National Guard troops across 19 states in the coming weeks to support its immigration and anti-crime crackdowns, a dramatic expansion of the controversial operation that’s seen federal agents and Guard troops carrying out activities across Washington, D.C.

The troops, who will largely be activated across Republican-controlled states, will serve in support of the administration’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement operations, as well as other law enforcement priorities, according to comment from unnamed Pentagon officials and documents obtained by Fox News.

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You have the right and responsibility to refuse inhumane or illegal orders.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But frequently not the ability to survive doing so within a fascist regime.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I am well aware.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not a single nazi was punished for not following orders when it came to crimes.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes they were. By the ones giving the orders.

Like then, fascists will not just abuse and kill the intended victims. They'll also abuse and kill people for standing in the way or for refusing to participate in their crimes against humanity.

I'm not saying that it's not a good thing to resist orders that are both illegal and immoral, I'm saying that it's not automatically and instantly safe like you imply.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes they were. By the ones giving the orders.

Source? Your ass?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

You're asking me for a source on Nazis ever being punished for disobedience?

You ARE aware that I mean DURING and BEFORE what Robert Evans refers to as Dub Dub Dos rather than during the following trials, right?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They were absolutely punished by the people giving the orders. They weren’t tried for refusing during the Nuremberg trials, but the ones who blatantly refused during the war didn’t survive that long; They were quickly forced out of service, labeled deserters, or just outright killed for being Jew sympathizers.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Source fot that? I've never seen anything to confirm what you're saying.