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I engage with these people a lot and they just deny and say the strangest things as a response.
“Oh yeah, who started the war then! How dare Trump try and save Ukraine and Russian lives”
They just keep it going and going, it doesn’t matter what you cite or reference. Like what do we say?
In real life?
Russia invaded Ukraine after annexing Crimea. Russia stole Ukraine land and then invaded what was left.
Then, walk away.
Online?
Russia invaded Ukraine after annexing Crimea and then provide links.
This isn't for the online person, but for people that come after. Don't comment any further.
Not after annexing Crimea. They invaded Ukraine when they stole Crimea.
I agree, but make sure to not make things more complicated for the recepients of this message. Fuzzing about details is a great way to make people think that the overall message is flawed, incomplete or even wrong.
skim read that last sentence something about führer
sounded about right
You press them to explain the things they say. Just like if someone says a racist or sexist joke, the best response is, "I don't get it, could you explain it to me?."
You just don’t engage. It’s impossible to have a conversation with or win an argument with a fool.
I've given up. When I realize I'm talking to a MAGAt, just disengage as gracefully as possible. If I can't get away, try and change the subject. If it's in a group setting, I might slap a fact-dick on the table once to make a point of opposition as a signal to the group.
I've never had luck. It's like reasoning with a toddler and arguing with a brick wall and trying to have discourse with a toy you pull the string on and it just repeats the same 5 things over and over.
They're fucking idiots that have been bred and brainwashed to be scared and fearful and lash out. They're like an angry stray dog, except I believe dogs can be rehabilitated - I don't know if I'm convinced of the same for these people.
Our eyes are begging us to stop rolling them.
I mean... there is a small part of DC that is a hell hole... y'all know where I'm talking about, the place where people in suits gather. And some weird house with an oddly-shaped office
Release the Epstein files.
Recently, some idiot had a demo on how the cop put his knee on George Floyd. Now his knee was right between the shoulder blades. I stated...ugh it was on his neck!
Multiple MAGAts responded...."no it wasn't!", "The knee wasn't on the neck though!"
So I found a picture. A few of them deleted their comments but others still don't believe it...."You can make a picture of anything"
Like dude, we all saw it....wtf. The MAGA brain rot is real.
It is buffling, its almost like we are not the same species. How is it possible to be this dumb? I don't know...
It's deliberate. Deliberate ignorance. Just pushing it all away.
Great, now spread it on actual right-wing sites and social media and not just places like Lemmy for upvotes from the 99.9999% of people here who would agree with you.
edit: apparently some of the 99.9999% really rather masturbate to this content than even hear the mild suggestion that it can be weaponized for good. I am genuinely a LITTLE surprised how much it triggers some people to suggest leaving a safe-space and actually putting yourself at risk of humiliation and gasp downvotes from strangers, but really, this is a fine image-thing, now lets use it where it matters. These sites and communities should be our staging areas for waging war. Not a place to suck each other off for having the same opinions, or worse, infighting with your allies.
You could be doing that too instead of being a smarmy shit
I mostly hear people disagree with only the first two. And of course some Trump worshipers with the last one. Some of the rest don't seem so controversial.
IMMIGRANTS ARE (NOT) RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE ILLS OF THE COUNTRY
C'mon, that's a classic. Not even MAGA-specific, this has been the favorite of every far-right movememnt.
Immigrants are responsible for pretty much all of our country's problems. Well, immigrants and their descendents. Elon musk, Freidrich Drumpf, etc.
I mean, if you're a native American, you've been saying this for centuries!
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If 14 years is old enough to consent, how come you don't let them buy guns, huh?
Because then 14 year olds could protect themselves from being raped by them.
Child rapists probably hate that 14 year olds can't buy guns.
