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Ah yes, the conservatives plan to boost the birth rate has finally come to bear a rotten fruit:

• People can't afford to have kids
• People can't afford to feed kids
• People can't afford to shelter kids
• Therefore they won't have able bodied kids to keep the retirement and tax doles fulfilled
• Nor will they have able bodied soldiers for war

But they're boosting the birth rate! (they aren't, actually, the rate will be even more in decline since the replacement rate in the US was held up by immigration like in most countries, and dumbfuck's actions have brought a stop to that).

I feel like that's more than $5k in the picture if they're all $20 bills.

How about some of that socialism for the rest of us, and not just for breeders and soybean farmers?

Free daycare and free healthcare for people under 18 are two social services that would only benefit parents. How about free college tuition moving forward?

This is just a sad attempt making an exclusive version of establishment Dem stimulus checks...

Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.

How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.

The type of person who would think 5k for having a kid is a great deal is exactly the type of person conservatives would removed about having kids and leeching all the other government resources.

It's free to give birth here

$5,000 is a lot to those braindead morons who insist that "nobody wants to work" because they're still living comfortably off of a few $1,400 checks from half a decade ago...

5000$ is a lot. In Germany you get only 250€

What are the odds this is just Clinton's $5,000 Baby Bond, which was just giving them a fund at birth that they can cash out when they turn 18?

Except this time there's no guardrails and he can give it to all his cryptobro friends.

My personsl hypothesis is that when couples are living in times of prosperity or growth, they can see a future and can comfortably grow a pension, then they are likely to consider having kids. This also happens to be the time they are getting a share of the wealth society generates.

In recession and uncertain times, couples tend to hold of on getting kids, and if they do get kids, they do it much later in life, when they have saved some money.

Of course couples need free time as well. If both parents need to work full time, it's gonna be a lot less palatable to have kids.

I think the global low fertility is the problem of infinite growth self correcting.

They sure do act like it's the 1930s alright...

Why would this in particular be important to him? I would think he wouldn't care

This wouldn't even cover the hospital bill for most people lol.

And since hospitals know moms will be getting an extra 5k they will just add that into the cost somehow. /s

Considering also, how much they all complained about handing out checks during the pandemic...this just makes no sense. Now they're fine handing out even bigger checks, just to replace the people they're obsessed with deporting?

Daycare is free where I live. It has to be. You can't expect people to pay for public services themselves; that's done with taxes. Corporations can't have customers or employees without people, and to get people to make more people, you have to make it easier for them. So what makes the most sense is cutting corporation porfits, which they don't need past a limit if they aren't investing in things that will benefit the public. So if a corporation isn't doing anything good, raise their taxes, use them to pay for daycare.

With the tariffs that hardly helps.

daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?

monkey paw finger curls You get free healthcare coverage and half minimum wage for each child just for existing. However, you and your child must renounce your citizenship, forfeit your passport, and accept indentured servant status until you can buy back your citizenship after repaying the government child support in full.

That won’t even cover half of the (insured) cost of even the smoothest birth with my plan, and I work for a multi-billion dollar company.

This country, man. Having traveled abroad a bit, you start to realize how tunnel-visioned people stateside can get. Don’t even realize how much they/we are getting fleeced.

USA so shit they gotta pay people to make babies here

Clinton Floats $5,000 Baby Bond

~ September 28, 2007

It's nice to know these two are still in touch.

• A: This is the 'bad' kind of incentive. My mom worked in a hospital where people would come in pregnant, tons of neglected kids in tow, asking how much wellfare they could get for the next kid. Stuff like vouchers for school, care, healthcare and stuff doesn't incentive that.

• B: It's hilariously inadequate and out-of-touch. $5K for childcare these days is a joke, even as a nice supplement.

...But that's the point. This is for show, like Trump's COVID checks with his signature on them. It's a brand to tell people "Hey! I'm Trump, and I'm helping you!" directly, a decent idea poorly implemented for PR purposes. It's also hilariously hypocritical, seeing how much 'blank check hand-outs' were criticized for decades.

That roughly the total on what was saved with doge.

Are these those welfare babies Republicans always screeeched about?

I wonder how they'll make it so it only applies to "Aryan" children. Hitler did the same shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

WE CAN'T DO THAT, IT'S LIKE PUNISHING THE MOMS WHO ALREADY HAD CHILDREN!!!! /s

The average cost of delivering a baby in the US, including pre- and post-delivery expenses, is roughly $18,865. However, this figure can vary significantly, just gotta come up with the other 14000 dollars lol do Amerikans know other countries don't gouge their citizens for everything including birth? Land of the fee home of the slave

I sometimes joke with my kids and call them Lamborghini 1 and 2, because that's how much money it was suggested you would need for each kid, and I'm sure that has doubled or tripled by now.

I used to work as a teller at a bank. That bag of money is over 100k.

So conservatives want smaller government and less taxes but they're totally fine with their tax dollars being used to bribe women to give birth?

So they're stupid?

He should know that you can't buy that many diapers with $5k.

Unless he doesn't do his own diaper shopping I guess...

“White babies only please” —Cheetolini

Fash privileging heteronormativity in order to increase servitude and hasten planetary destruction? Fairly normal in our culture.

We had this in Australia for a while, where there was no hospital costs for birth, and almost 20 years ago, so it was a considerable help. The conservatives started claiming people were having babies just to get the money and then spending it on big TV's and other luxuries.

instead of DEPENDING on GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS new parents should be GRATEFUL someone is WILLING to be GENEROUS and provide them with such GOODWILL. America is WINNING again under PRESIDENT TRUMP

@BigMacHole@lemm.ee am I doing it right?

This is such a classic fascist play, get your bingo cards out ladies

Isn’t it like ~$310,000 to raise a kid to 17? That’s, what, 2% of what is needed after the poor child is born? And some woman is going to decide to let a guy nut in her for $5000?