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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 90 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Throughout the 90s Microsoft was the company equivalent of a serial killer, so Gates had to really step up his public relations. Goldfish-brained liberal techies ate it up, and love him now.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Many are new blood having no idea what Microsoft used to be. Add to that the modern good-guy MS face, funding (usefu for theml) open source and all that, and it gets difficult to convey how things used to be.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

you know that batman quote "you either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain"? well with billionaires its backwards apparently, you throw enough money on PR campaigns and you're literally worshipped

[–] ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty much all of Reddit right now

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Kind of surprised that Lemmy fell for it too.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Fell for what? From all publicly available information, Bill Gates is an objectively better person that is putting his money to far better good than Elon and is an example of how billionaires should behave.

Does that mean that he's overall a net "good" person in the grand, karmic, life total sense? Hard to say, given the abuse that Microsoft perpetuated to become Microsoft, probably not, but that doesn't change any of the first part.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (20 children)

Bill Gates is one of those secret elite Epstein list pedophile Zuckerberg-lizard people ruining and draining the planet. Gates wife divorced him for his Epstein escapades.

Running a big pharma company disguised as a charity and using his money to influence the WHO and WEF.

Elon Musk is a neo Nazi idiot who is too stupid to keep their schemes going and canceled USAID.

In terms of human casualties Elon is a lot lower than Gates. Because Bill Gates is competently evil.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

☝️Case in point, LOL.

It isn't hard at all to say whether Bill Gates is an "overall net 'good' person" or not. He became a billionaire (which is an inherently exploitative act), and no amount of trying to whitewash his legacy with philanthropy after the fact can change that.

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (7 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Billionaire philanthropy is like doing 100 damage to humanity, then returning 5 health. Then the 5 health gets amplified by information channels and it gets to feel much bigger in the collective consciousness. It gets a further boost when there's other prominent billionaires that don't give any hp back making it stand out as the good guy. So you end up in a bizarre position where objectively the philanthropist is the good guy compared to the rest, but the vast majority of us have no hp left.

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bill Gates? The Epstein guy?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 44 points 1 month ago

An Epstein guy.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Now to be fair, they're both Epstein guys.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 36 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The only road to being a billionaire is through exploitation. If you aren’t willing to sacrifice your morals somewhere along the path to get there, your journey to being a billionaire ends. Like it or not, that’s the reality. Gates is no better than the others. He just has better PR. There’s more to being a good member of humanity than giving away money for the tax breaks and PR. Working class folks defending billionaires in 2025 is some goldfish brain type shit.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

He's developed this Mr. Rogers persona

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 month ago

libs not falling for the lesser evil challenge LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope you remember what Bill Gates did to corona vaccinations

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you remind me? I'm afraid the microchip conspiracy theory people have taken over that portion of my brain

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation fought to tooth and nail to prevent a patent free vaccination

I'm too drunk to find a better source: https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-the-world-loses-under-bill-gates-vaccine-colonialism/

Gates’ argument about the TRIPS waiver—and the one being vociferously lobbied by pharmaceutical companies—is that waiving patent rights would not help poor countries scale up manufacturing and would instead eliminate incentives for future research.

This coming from the guy who has preached for population control for decades is pretty grim

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2018/09/africas-rapid-population-growth-puts-poverty-progress-at-risk-says-gates/

Rapid population growth in some of Africa’s poorest countries could put at risk future progress towards reducing global poverty and improving health, according to a report by the philanthropic foundation of Bill Gates.

Bill Gates is just as much a fascist as Elon Musk

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[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone with billions of dollars or even multi millions who isn't using most of the amount to aid humanity is an asshole, regardless of what their political views are

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

billionaires shouldn't exist in the first place. there's no way such amount of resources is going to efficiently be used by one single person.

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[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

literally the first episode of the citations needed podcast details how Bill Gates uses his "charitable" foundation to support the privatization of education via charter schools

they have another two parter episode later on about how his "charitable" foundation uses "partnerships" with media organizations to launder its own reputation even as it spends to influence government policy across the entirety of Africa

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As if one of them isn't a piece of shit?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

All billionaires are shit, but Gates is only an elephants diarrhoea, whereas musk is the sick triceratops' shitmound from Jurassic Park.

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love how the conversation went from "all billionaires are bad eat the rich!!" to "hey this good billionaire is talking smack about a bad billionaire, time to defend them from criticism because they did good thing"

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

that's liberals for ya

[–] webdoodle@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago

Want to do something about it? Come protest with me at the Billionaire's SummerCamp in Sun Valley Idaho on July 6th. This yearly conference, AKA the Sun Valley Conference, is where the parasitic rich meet each year to consolidate the new and old media, and to plan the coming years news narrative. It is attended by several former CIA Directors and all the media Billionaires.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Its like the billionaires pass the ball from Elon to bill so Elon can go back to the bench and take a break and get some Gatorade.

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