cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39011502

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[–] 97 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I will never understand why the model — any model in any environment — is allowed to execute commands.

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  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    There is exactly one situation in which it sort of makes sense: Copilot integrated with VS Code, running repo-specific commands like yarn build, with direct human oversight.

    That's it. That's the only situation.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    is there any value in saving like ten keystrokes it would take to type the command yourself while introducing the ability for an AI to hallucinate your code to death

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Not really. I'm using Copilot for my job because I'm required to, but I limit it to creating basic scripts that accomplish very specific tasks, which it's okay at. I never let it touch my actual codebase.

    Every experiment I've run to test how it does with real code from a large, production application has failed miserably. It introduces mocks, it duplicates stuff everywhere, it fakes shit when real APIs are available... I have no fucking idea how these "AI" companies have managed to convince so many businesses that producing catastrophically shitty code very quickly is a good thing.

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    [–] 72 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Lol that's amazing. I'll stick with Linux!

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago

    Me too. Linux already comes without warranty. This warning basically just says that if the user enables the AI agent all guarantees are off. They didn't bother putting safeguards in and don't want to be responsible for it.

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Is windows 11 not already a malware anyway ?

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (25 children)

    Never thought I'd see the day where I'd prefer an Apple device over a Windows one. I know they have their own issues, but in terms of ai implementation and security they're miles ahead of MS.

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Tbf, you're just swapping one glass of tainted punch for another. Both murder your data privacy and security.

    I guess if you like Apple's form of abuse more than Microsoft's, more power to ya. It definitely isn't the escape hatch you think it is for privacy or security though, that belongs to the Penguin crew.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    Privacy sure Linux has it beat. Security? Simply untrue, particularly by default, unless you put a lot of time into configuration, in not exactly sure where that narrative is from it’s completely false. macOS for example has way better app permission isolation that Linux does unless you use only flatpaks. Also the open source system scanner that gives devices a cybersecurity score that I’m forgetting the name of at the moment can be used to prove this correct without going into extremely long detail. Compare the results from macOS and Linux by default and it’s pretty solidly in macOS favor. I use both but this idea needs to stop being spread simply because people have a vendetta against closed source. I love Linux probably more than macOS but there are still reasons to like and use macOS.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Oh I know, Linux is the way, but I mean that Apple's implementation is just that smidge less intrusive since all data is processed locally rather than in some datacenter somewhere. They'll still extract whatever can make them money, no illusions there.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    Has that actually been verified by a third party auditor? After the "deleted photos reappearance" incident, I would imagine that any Apple promise of "processes initiated from your device stay on your device" would just be a marketing tagline with an escape clause in one of their EULAs.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Apple hardware is typically more difficult to install linux on, and is therefore less useful. I mean you can do it in many cases from what I hear, but I think it's still not easy on average.

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    I think they are just fed up with maintaining their own kernel. At this point it honestly seems like they are trying to get people to switch. If they now just release all their code under GPL then the linux nerds can fully support all windows software to allow a seamless transition.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why bother playing by their rules? We have Wine. We have proton. We can build our own "windows compatible execution environment", with Blackjack, and Hookers, and better compatibility, and better efficiency, and...

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I think the real question is, is this what Microsoft executives use internally? If they are using Windows 11, are they using the AI agent? Or do they get to opt out of it? Or are they just using Macs?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    There actually is a version of Windows 11 that exists without any bloat, AI or any other shit (most of the system requirements are also gone) called « Windows Iot LTSC », most of its updates are security ones, and for all I've observed it even escaped some of the crappy « windows killed itself » kinda updates. Any company can get access to it.

    I don't know if they use it, but they'd be dumb not to.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    warns

    threatens

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    How long until the AI learns to delete system32 at random?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    So, the AI chief dude is saying he doesn't understand why people don't want AI.... do they even read their own docs?

    Here's what I see happening, probably very soon when this AI thing is released: Some malware developer writes an 'AI installer' that activates this thing, sets itself up as an AI on your PC, passes through whatever query you have to free ChatGPT, and then uses AI access to steal all your stuff or track you. Because if the AI model has access to your data, so does any support code related to that model.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Laughs in Linux Mint

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Play this KennyChesneySongMp3.exe now!

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