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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 118 points 5 days ago (5 children)

More like about 10,000 years ago when humans started farming and agriculture to grow crops at scale to make bread ... then at about the same time they domesticated cows in order to harvest milk and figure out how to make and store butter.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 62 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The earliest known bread recipe dates back approximately 14,500 years, discovered in a stone fireplace at a site in northeastern Jordan, where charred remains of a pita-like flatbread were found.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 64 points 5 days ago (1 children)

where charred remains of a pita-like flatbread were found

Man, it must have been hella stale by then.

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 53 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nothing a little water and microwave can't fix

[–] siha@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

Just gotta put a glass of water next to it

[–] TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 35 points 5 days ago (3 children)

And "only" 5000 years if you count when people started using yeast for bread production, since the bread ain't the same without yeast.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Behold! The bread hierarchy!

Flour + water = hardtack

Flour + water + yeast = bread

Flour + water + yeast + butter = toast

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar = muffin

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs = cake

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate = brownie

Flour + water + leavener + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate + cream = cupcake

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Flour + water = hardtack

clack clack

:D

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard not to use yeast. It's everywhere and if you wait long it enough it'll start to ferment. Look at what some Orthodox Jews go through to make unleavened bread.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I got the opposite of whet you meant at first, did you mean 'to prevent it from leavening at all'? I found this in wiki and only then did I got it:

Dough is considered to begin the leavening process 18 minutes from the time it gets wet; sooner if eggs, fruit juice, or milk is added to the dough. The entire process of making matzah takes only a few minutes in efficient modern matzah bakeries.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Sorry for the confusion. This 18 minutes thing was exactly what I tried to say!

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are plenty of bread without yeast.

[–] TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago

Yes there are, but the one in the picture clearly was made with yeast.

[–] ShamanRonin@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

We gatekeeping bread now?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pre-agricultural humans did still have access to flour and milk though.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But what did they milk to make butter?

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago

I know this, and you know this. Shh. Don't ruin the meme

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 39 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I could make bread right now. But I just want to eat bread right now. I don't wanna wait for it to rise and cook 😩

[–] Swaus01@piefed.social 28 points 5 days ago

I guarantee you will still want to eat some bread later, and you'll even thank your past self for making the bread

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

As an USAmerican. The absolute travesty that we sell in the grocery store is one of the worst crimes against humanity.

I want to live in world where we're all walking distance from a bakery that makes real bread daily.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I'm also from the US and my grocery store sells pretty solid breads. I also have solid French and Italian bakeries walking distance from my house. I also live in the suburbs.

Some people only have Dollar General.

US very big and very varied. So I'm from Jersey, if that helps, because I think it's important to be specific. We have great bread, great bagels, great pizza and for this I am very thankful.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 6 points 5 days ago

Do you think people in other countries make their own bread? 🤨

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bread remains one of the cheapest foods. Get some frozen bread, rinse it quickly with water, then bake it.

As good as fresh, dirt cheap, and you don't have to bake.

[–] 69420@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

...then bake it.

...

...you don't have to bake.

🤔

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

-_-

When I say bake the second time, I mean reheat in the oven, not literally bake

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[–] DonEladio@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the meal inspo OP

I think I'll go and make this right now

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And then for some of us, our bodies are like, "lol you've had enough of this. Now even just crumbs will fuck you up for a week or more." It was a good run.

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

F for respects (seriously, hope i never feel your pain, have known some with it too)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

This is how the Britishpronounced it after drinking all the T

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's "bread and butter" but with some silly on it. Not a real word lol

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Could have been swedish or something, lol.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s smörebröd in Swedish, I think.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

i want s’morebrod

[–] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Not enough umlauts

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just made some homemade butter by accident and it fucking slaps so hard

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No wonder. You slapped it first to get butter. SCNR

But for real. Fresh homemade food usually tastes better than store-bought food.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Slapping cream into butter is some karate kid shit

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I love dipping that in some Zatar dip. I basically add a bit of olive oild to a small dish, then salt to taste a bunch of zatar, mix then dip away!!!

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