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Trump administration policies slashing staffing and funding for public lands are waking a sleeping political giant in Montana. Will either party notice?

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 108 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They explicitly did vote for this.

What did they think doge and “drill baby drill” would do?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 61 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"I voted for Mr. Hitler because he'd be good for the economy. I didn't go in for all that Jew-killing stuff. You can't blame that on me." - German citizen, 1946

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"I just wanted the Jews to not exist anymore, not that they should be killed!"

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Definitely not defending it but originally it was pitched as removing them from the country. But when the Germans realized how logistically impossible that was going to be they just decided to kill them. That first part sounds a little familiar doesn't it?

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They will vote to throw out the current crop of GOP thieves and liars, then vote in a fresh new batch of GOP crooks.

[–] finley@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Long after they'd caught Saddam in a hole in the ground and found billions in cash floating around Iraq, I talked to a guy who swore that there had bee WMDs and that they'd been transported to Syria.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 3 months ago

Was it ANTIFA? Ask him, I'll bet he'll say yes.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Democratic presidents have just become placeholders between disastrous Republican administrations, in office just long enough for voters to forget the last Republican debacle, and fall for the same old propaganda, and vote them back in to continue their destruction of America.

That describes every Democratic president since LBJ, our last warrior Democratic president.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I used to think LBJ was too much braggadocio even despite passing the Civil Rights act. Leftist Youtuber Kyle Kulinski admired him for having the big dick energy-- both figuratively and literally-- to not care about losing a substantial voting population to the opposing party, in favour of doing what is ultimately morally correct. Now seeing as how the party of supposed progressives and lesser evil is bending over to fascists, I see how being shamelessly Machiavellian and bully, if it meant to serve the greater good, could work.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Zink voted for Trump but said he doesn’t agree with everything the president does. Zink clarifies he calls himself a “conservative” over calling himself a “Republican.” He doesn’t like Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric. “I prefer common sense in the middle,” he said.

You fired for Trump. You're a Republican. You don't prefer common sense in the middle, you are a Republican that tries to distance yourself from the consequences of your actions by calling yourself a conservative. You did this to yourself, you fucking idiot.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 3 months ago

There are no Republicans or Conservatives any more. That was just the larval stage for their final form: MAGA. The Republican/ Conservative movement is dead. They're all MAGA whether they like it or not.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Remember in 2025 when GWB had so thoroughly fucked the country that even Republicans denied supporting him?

They never learn a damn thing; the party response is to always double down on reactionary policies that shore up their support among the absolute worst people in the US so that billionaires can consolidate their wealth and power.

[–] karashta@sopuli.xyz 35 points 3 months ago

... They literally voted for this.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He’s a rural Montanan whose way of life and livelihood depend on public lands.

Translation: he depends on socialism to survive (not that he'll ever see it that way, of course).

Hunting season had yet to open when we spoke, but Zink was already hearing from fellow hunters who had to cut their own way into trails to hunting camps after Forest Service trail crews were laid off en masse.

Oh, no - work?!

Ranchers and farmers use public lands for agriculture; outfitters and guides take guests into them; hunters access them regularly to put food in the family freezer; and forestry, timber and sawmill workers fulfill contracts on them for wildfire mitigation and lumber.

Party of small government sure likes to suck the government teat.

I spoke to people across Montana, from different professions and down the political range from independent to staunchly conservative

Helluva range there, considering that (on a global scale) Democrats have right-wing views.

A ranch this size, 700 private acres, could still operate without a public land allotment by leasing other private land, but that’s much more expensive — prohibitively so, for most ranchers. Down in the Southwest, he said, many ranches are a whopping 90 percent federal land allotments; it’s often much less than that in western Montana.

Yeah, I don't care enough to finish the article.

Edit typo.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 months ago

Welfare for me, but not for thee.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It’s just insane to think these guys built their whole livelihood around government land and a healthy ecosystem; and then vote against both those issues every time.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Uhh... but he DID vote for that

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago
[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

They'd all vote for it again though

[–] X@piefed.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Archer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This needs to be on billboards in every small town experiencing distress because of Trump policy

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I really wish they'd all at least admit "I didn't know what I was voting for"

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are admitting that by saying "this isn't what I voted for."

They lack the capacity for introspection, or refuse to do it because it's painful, so they'll say this isn't what they voted for, when in reality they weren't paying attention and were fed nothing but "woke bad, prices high, deport immigrants, vote for me."

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 3 months ago

They are admitting that they don't understand, but that is different than admitting that they did.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"This isn't what I voted for. But what choice did I have? Did you expect me to vote for a woman?"

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

“Her laugh bro”

At least when it was Hillary there was valid criticism of warmongering and Wall Street pandering / bribes. Getting people to vote based on her laugh really shows the type of citizens we’re dealing with. They probably love this article!

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm happy that some people are realizing the damage this is doing; however I'll hold my celebration until it has some real world consequences for these people.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 14 points 3 months ago

I'm holding my celebration until they actually (a) stop voting for Republicans, (b) express public contrition for their vote, (c) start actively and publicly working against the political party that brought this into being, and (d) continue until that political party is dismantled because it wasn't just "Trump" that brought this into being, it was the entire Republican party who deliberately stacked the federal and Supreme Court, who gerrymandered maps to keep their extremists in power, and who's "moderates" still toe the party line (except in a few cases where their votes don't matter, but only so they can have a couple things to point to, showing how "independent" and "Washington outsider" they are when they go home to campaign for yet another term).

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago
[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Oh they voted for it but they thought none of it would hit them. They were fine with it as long as it got those welfare queens off the government tit. They are racist shitfucks just like I deal with here in WNC. Same mentality.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

havethedayyouvotedfor.jpg

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Come talk to me when you have the will and the capacity to vote differently.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 16 points 3 months ago

I am so tired of stories about how this isn't what these voters voted for.

I was told repeatedly that, no, these voters are smart and are not voting against their own interests and how dare I suggest otherwise.

These voters are morons.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I really want to insult these people to their face with the biggest damn “i told you so” of examples of their actions.

I know it won’t do a lick of good with these people as they’ll just dig in to their illusions harder, but frankly at this point…. I don’t give a damn.

They won’t ever change, no matter what we do, so I just want some catharsis of calling them a dumb ass straight to their faces and wish them they worst as the world burns along with them.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

This is the point where I'm at. They always cry about personal responsibility and bootstraps except when it happens to them it's a fucking travesty. If they won't change their minds either way, I'm at least going to get a good laugh out of it.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

This is EXACTLY what you voted for, Cletus. You better thank His Orangeness for all the libs He owned.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Vote Republican if you want someone to represent you that runs away from accountability.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago

Bus-thrower-unders

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Wait a second. I’m in Maine, and I have Susan Collins(R) as a senator and Janet mills(D) as a governor, soon to be running for that senate seat. Guess which one has an open for line for constituents to call? The answer is unfortunate.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Lol yes you dumbfucks did.

Have fun being great.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Scientists who got dodged back in January:

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

"I didn't vote for this."

Since it's pantomime season here: OH YES YOU DID!

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

“I didn’t vote for this!!!! I voted to be a racist bigot!!!!!!!!!!” -every MAGA cult member

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

They voted for racism, not to be poor. Now they want pity. Fuckem.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

"We just wanted the brown immigrants gone!"

Losing your subsidies and Medicare is part and parcel of voting for Trump, you single-issue voter wankstain! As much as I think most of us are exploited and victimised by social media algorithms, electorates overall still shoulder the blame for being even racist enough to elect orange wankstain, no matter how "adjacent" he was to the far right before becoming nakedly fascist!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

Of course the dumbshits did vote for it.