“If they persist” = “as long as everyone keeps rolling over and allowing it”
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Right-o, then: Protesty protest. Whoops, I got bagged by facial recognition and sent to El Salvador by gustapo. At least the media completely ignored the protest and no one even knows it happened.
A guy just got kicked out of Madison Square Garden. He was banned for life for a shirt he sold online that called for the removal of the MSG Ceo. He didn't buy the tickets he was using, and hasn't been to an MSG property in 20 years. They picked him out of the crowd using facial recognition, which was linked to his social media, which was matched to a list of banned people. This is just the actions of a private entity, how deep do you think the governments abilities reach?
Protesting these days is a lot bigger ask than it was even 20 years ago. Proper resistance even harder still. I agree we need action, drastic action, and soon. But I don't fault ordinary people for being afraid to lose everything for what they believe.
Important distinction: to lose everything for someone else for ever diminishing returns
If I didn’t have to support anyone I’d already be organizing marches
True. But we have other leverage. Some 70% of the economy is consumer spending. Stop buying things and the complicit corporations that are dependent on quarterly growth will change their tune quickly. Even if they don't get to have another tax cut.
Have you seen the mass protests protesting the mass protestors getting imprisoned for protesting?
Sounds like it’s time to try something that isn’t as easily ignored.
This is the part where Americans shirk responsibility by telling me “you first” and then telling me “then keep your mouth shut” when they hear I’m not from the states- which is 1) hilarious coming from Americans and 2) helps them to go on pretending someone else will come to save them.
Protests are important. But our biggest tool is the general strike.
If you insist on non-violence, why are we not seeing more cyberwarfare? Ransomware. MITM attacks. Social engineering. Catfishing. Expose the thousands of pedophiles in the GOP- politicians AND voters. Disrupt or intercept communication. Hit them financially. Protests are easily ignored. Cyberattacks aren’t.
Out-tech these guys. Outsmart them. Even the clever, crafty alt-right assholes at the end of the day aren’t PARTICULARLY bright. The “left” in the US, such as it is, is very much not living up to its self-proclaimed intelligence relative to the right.
Expose the thousands of pedophiles in the GOP
I mean, this exists:
And those are just the officials who have been caught by law enforcement.
I say, open season on the voters themselves as well- by everyone. Out them to their families, employers, religious groups- go wild.
Lol wut. That happens all the time. But DoS doesn't take down fascists and the courts apparently dont care if you're a rapist if you're a billionaire.
I’m talking mostly about the voters, not the party leaders.
But hey, if you don’t like the non-violent option, there’s always the other one.
May 1 2028 mark your calenders
Well, that's the plan.
As a European who studied in the US and since moved back to Europe after working in Silicon Valley for a while I am actually more and more ashamed about the US section of my CV.
I don’t even mention my time in the US in my cover letters anymore when applying for jobs.
well, Silicon Valley used to be good 5+ years ago. The enshittification cycle only started somewhere around 2018 imho.
It certainly kicked into overdrive around then.
"I love the poorly educated" -Trump, 2016
When HitlerPig's wars start, he's going to need a draft to fill the ranks, and in the past, college students were deferred. By destroying the age and role of colleges in pur society, he can lay the groundwork of not allowing them to be an excuse to avoid mandatory military service.
There will still be ways to opt out, but they will all be extremely expensive, and require other qualifications such as proof of ideology, clean social media record, a loyalty oath, etc. But mostly money. Pay enough, you can avoid the draft. They might even resurrect the Civil War era custom of hiring someone to take your place. The bottom line is that the wealthy won't have to go, if they are willing to pay enough to save their children's lives.
America would burn if he tried to draft people to invade Canada
The only reason to join the military to invade Canada, is to defect once you get there.
That could be a great strategy for "The Enemy." Just make it known to the American military draftees that if they defect, they will be richly rewarded with amnesty and assistance in settling in their new country. If my son was drafted, and was heading off to war, I would encourage him to defect the first chance he got. He wouldn't be alone, thousands would do the same thing, crippling any strategies the military was attempting.
Bone spurs. Everyone should start claiming bone spurs. Incurable.
The US draft system hasn't had college deferments since the latter part of the Vietnam war.
We haven't had a draft since the latter part of the Vietnam War. They both ended at the exact time. What's your point?
I had the impression that college deferment ended about a year before the draft did.
I don't expect college draft deferment to be a thing again until the boomers die.
Never thought stupid comedy relief movies about college life were going to be historical records of how US society used to be before becoming a hellhole that doesn't value higher education.
“The End of College Life…” I think that’s the whole point.
Claim bone spurs, then conscientious objector and if all fails, there's fragging.