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[–] [S] 240 points 9 months ago (28 children)
  • [–] 273 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Just in case anyone is not aware: This slogan is referring to collective punishment, which is a war crime. She is advocating for war crimes, shamelessly, in front of the populace.

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  • [–] 81 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Someone shoot that bitch. And tRump and the rest of the cunts around him.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    War crimes only apply to war. For example, the use of chemical weapons is a war crime, but their use against your own population is apparently fine and dandy.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    To what was this a response? That people want to bring the Minnesota murderer to court?

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    That is the confusing thing, no one killed one of theirs. The most pain I’ve seen any of them in is when they’re unprepared for the MN winter.

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    [+] 151 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)
  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I don't understand why people would even be debating that.

    if you write something out and display it, it is no different than saying it out loud. that's not debatable, that's just the way it is.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 9 months ago

    If it helps, in another post about if Renee Good's driving was a part of why she was executed, Lemmy commenters were complaining about if using Google to search online was acceptable.

    It's kinda depressing honestly.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Attacking how communication is done instead of what's being communicated is a form of subversion the CIA uses to mess with foreign actors. The left and its tolerance towards others (e. g. misgendering by accident) is very susceptible to such attacks and they've let themselves be decimated on the public stage because of it.

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    [–] 113 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Be careful of false news that suits your narrative, it weakens our position.

    That phrase has no known Nazi origin that I could find. As loath as I am to link to Reddit, there is a good write up here:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1qbjtkr/is_the_phrase_one_of_ours_all_of_yours_an_old/

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  • [–] 95 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I'm inclined to give AskHistorians a pass. There is no community on Reddit that tries as hard as they do to moderate their way around the limitations of the platform and its management.

    The verified posters tend to be millennial academics with masters or PhD's in history or closely related fields, and they take the name of the community seriously. You are there to ask a historian a question, and if none answers, then so be it.

    And I agree, pushing past the obvious dog whistle to go somewhere the data doesn't lead is a way to weaken what should be a self-evidently powerful argument that the Trumpers are embracing ever-more-openly fascist positions on, well, everything.

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  • [–] 43 points 9 months ago

    If you ever want to check, just dona search and set the range of dates to end before the current outrage.

    Before January, I couldn't find a single use of that phrase on the internet.

    But it's not some dog whistle, it's blatantly obvious what they're saying. Don't let them get it twisted up so that the only bad things are verbatim what nazis said.

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    [–] 73 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    So many people in this post complaining that its misinformation because its not actually a quote because it wasnt spoken aloud or it doesnt actually come from the nazis. However. The Trump admin DID display this information WITH the intent to threaten the lives of all dissidents and almost certainly with the belief themselves that it comes from nazis, as they wholeheartedly stand on the side of nazis. This isnt misinformation, no matter how picky you want to be, and it is VERY relevant and important to share.

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    [–] 73 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Do none of you know what this is referring to? Okay, class time. Gather round, because I'm going to give you all a quick history lesson.

    Oh, and you should check this out on the side. It will help with the learning.

    I don't know about whether there's a connection between that slogan and the nazis, but the incident the slogan is allegedly coined from is definitely real.

    The SS officer who was killed is Reinhard Heydrich, a SS officer who was high enough to be part of Hitler's inner circle. Heydrich is understood to be one of the principal architects of the Holocaust.

    The village who had its male population (except for the children) wiped out as revenge for Heydrich's death is Lidice, in the modern Czech Republic.

    By the way, you all should watch the movie Anthropoid. It goes over a dramatized version of the events.

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  • [–] 71 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Sigh. I miss when Rage Against The Machine wasn't political.

    What are you going to tell me next, that Tom Morello has a degree in political science? He should just stick to playing the guitar.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I understood that reference. Still cracks me up. What machine did he think they were raging against?

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    [–] 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (22 children)

    Congrats, Amerikkka! You finally managed to achieve socialism! The National kind of Socialism!

    EDIT: Apparently, the joke is not evident enough so I have to explain it so I'm not called a right-winger:

    There is a double reference in the comment:

    I wrote "Amerikkka" with 3 K for the KKK. (First part of the joke) to call them KKK members.

    Then I used National Socialism (notice the capitalized words) instead of just socialism or national socialism (without capitalized words) to reference the name nazis gave themselves, to calll them nazis.

    I hope this clears it up. As people are talking about "nuance" that I seem to be lacking.

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    [–] 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, this is the breaking point 🙄

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    [–] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The Trump administration is quoting Nazis, why am I not surprised?

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    [–] 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Y'all remember when Trump supporters danced to Rage Against the Machine? https://youtu.be/ddrFt1BHkUQ

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Of course they did, they're all dumb

    Most Americans are seriously dumb. The illiteracy level is insane for a western developed country, especially the riches country in the world. It could ensure all its citizens are well educated but we'll educated citizens won't vote for fascists, they won't listen to the transparent bullshit lies of fox news and co, they won't vote Republican because fuuuuck that shit.

    Republicans have worked pretty much since WWII, especially starting with Reagan, to ensure the US citizens are as dumb as possible, it keeps them in power.

    So Magas dancing to killing in the name of is pretty normal for them, as they have no idea what they're doing, no idea what the song is about, no idea what RATM is about.

    I'd feel sad for them if they weren't so dangerous to themselves, to everyone in the US, and everyone in the world. I honestly have no idea how to solve this part, after trump and Maga is gone. How do you deprogram millions of brainwashed idiots that barely finished highschool?

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    The phrase "One of ours, all of yours" was displayed on a podium during a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) briefing attended by Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. While images of the podium with the slogan circulated widely on social media, Kristi Noem herself did not say the phrase aloud 12.

    The slogan has been linked to Nazi Germany, specifically as a reprisal for the killing of an SS officer 45. Musician Tom Morello alleged that the "Trump admin quoted (verbatim) the slogan" 25. However, other reports indicate that Noem defended ICE agents, stating they acted in self-defense and that "criminal, illegal aliens" would be arrested while American citizens would be protected 1. Some sources suggest that the phrase has not been found in historical texts related to 20th-century history 3.

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    1. Did Kristi Noem really say One of Ours All of Yours? History of ...www.primetimer.com

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    2. Fact Check: Did Kristi Noem use problematic slogan ‘One of ours, all of ...news.meaww.com

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    3. Kristi Noem One of Ours, All of Yours Podium Message Explainedwww.distractify.com

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    4. ‘One of ours, all of yours’ – Into the Woodsacornabbey.com

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    5. Tom Morello Condemns DHS Podium Sloganbluntmag.com.au

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    [–] 12 points 9 months ago*

    It's not and it's a matter of time before either the second civil war or third world war happens.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago*

    The women were sent to concentration camps and most of the kids were gassed. This is literally what they mean when they say “make America great again”

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I can’t find any evidence of this being an actual Nazi slogan. Searching for the phrase and filtering by results before this week turns up pretty much nothing.

    (Advocating for collective punishment is obviously unacceptable either way)

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Don't call me overdramatic. Holocaust 2.0 is coming.

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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    We found no evidence confirming the phrase appearing on a lectern originated verbatim in Nazi Germany, as social media posts suggested.

    However, we found no evidence confirming that the phrase originated verbatim in Nazi Germany, as social media posts suggested. The origin of the phrase was unclear, but it did not appear to have been used by the Trump administration or other presidential administrations before appearing on the lectern. Online searches for the origin of the phrase returned only results for more social media posts claiming it had roots in the Nazi regime, without providing further evidence. Searches of newspaper archives also found no instances of the Trump administration or other governments using the specific phrase.

    Mindlessly spreading without fact-checking, bad look.

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