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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

I remember in 2004 some conservatives were complaining about rhe coarsening of language by president's. Even citing Bush's 'come on let's roll' style and words.

Bush had a really stupid way of speaking that was widely mocked and a penchant for neolinguisms but he was never to the extent of DJT.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

What's with Lemmy praising Regan lately? Trump is a continuation of Regan, not his opposite.

You know your country is fucked when the guy that implemented "trickle-down economics" is seen as a sane person... at least compared to... ahem...

[gestures at the current US adminitration]

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Reagan was good at reading his lines, after all he was an actor.

[–] seventythreeyards@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it’s more a case of “you know times are bad when even Reagan looks good compared to this…” rather than praise.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck that, if I could wave a magic wand and suffocate a future President in their crib, it would be Ronnie, not Donnie.

Without what Reagan did to our culture, politics, and economy, we wouldnt have had a population ignorant enough to elect Trump once, let alone twice.

Turns out starving public education and allowing big corpo to call any self-serving lie "news" without regulation makes one nation under duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Without investing in education, a nation has only failure and collapse to look forward do.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel like even that one president who died a week or two into his term in office because he refused to see a doctor while he was sick was better than Trump.

At least that dude had the decency to die.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I know its crazy how they think he was good person when trump played the same card he did. Reagan did a deal with the iranaians and trump did a deal with isreal. While reagan was telling them to tear down that wall he was shifting the tax burden away from the 1%. Same shithead different era.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, as bad as Reagan was, Trump is infinitely worse.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If Trump didn’t get a second term, then Reagan probably goes down as having done more net damage to the country. Now it’s anyone’s game.

It's understandable to think this, but there's a straight downward slope from Reagan to Trump. Reagan laid the groundwork for all of this, and would be just as terrible - if not worse - if he had the opportunities presented by today's political landscape and access to wildly successful social manipulation markets.

Trump's domestic economic playbook is straight from Reagan, plus the tariffs from Reagan's inspiration - Coolidge - who caused the Great Depression. Taxes for everyone but the wealthy, opposed labor and unions at every turn, and dismantled as much of society's support structure and safeguards as possible, all while blaming vulnerable scapegoats ("welfare queens", immigrants) for the problems of the middle class.

The nine most terrifying words... are I'm from the government, and I'm here to help

  • Ronald Reagan, 1986

The vague threats of not trusting the government while actively defrauding the public and exploiting international connections in order to take and keep the highest office of the land. Pretending to be for "law and order" so he could commit crimes while expanding the police, military, and surveillance state. Weaponizing the law for outright campaigns of oppression against specific demographics. The lies. The dementia.

Coolidge, Reagan, Nixon, Bush, Bush again. It's pretty much a straight line of economic failures, human rights abuses, authoritarian expansions, criminally negligent anti-environmental policies, hostilities toward minorities, and weaponizing the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the federal government while simultaneously dismantling it from the bottom up.

Armed with the post-watergate propaganda machine in a society that was simply not ready for the internet, Trump is the ultimate synthesis of everything they've been building towards. It took a village to raise this manbaby, and the parties, donors, and media manipualators are just as much to blame, if not more.

But make no mistake, all of those presidents crawled and walked so Trump could ~~run~~ waddle into the Oval Office and take a shit on the country.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reagan made trump possible.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It took a lot more than Reagan. Trump is the consequence of the last 50 years of Republican (and Democrat, but less so) politics.

Reagan destroyed way more than trump has so far. He gutted the tax base for the benefit of the wealthy and put the burden on the middle class. He got rid of the national mental health networks leading to the current homeless crisis. Trump is only possible because of the actions Reagan took. No matter which one is better or worse.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I dunno if this counts as 'praising' him.

There was that one quote that directly flamed trump, so that was kinda fun even though yeah he got the credit for it.

I mean - Reagan's reign was the jump-off-the-cliff that ruined America for generations but for the most part he wasn't as stupid or as evil as this fuckin guy.

That's the faintest praise I can come up with.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a famous quote that most people know to set up the punchline. I wouldn't look more into it than that.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Reagan/Welch destroyed the United States irrevocably.

Trump/Elon are just vultures picking its well rotted corpse clean.

Trump is a just big dumb animal who has been using his wealth to leverage confidence schemes his whole life, and used his instincts as a grifter to steal the Republican base from the old guard Republicans. He really doesn't deserve as much credit as he gets. It was Reagan that furthered the Welch corpo vision of paying off both major parties, and convincing the peasants to vote against their own interests with the promise(aka lie to the suckers they see as less than human) of golden showers of prosperity into today. This was happening with or without Donnie. If anything we can see more of what's going on than establishment, old money conservatives would have allowed because Trump is a big, dumb, loud animal.

This country wasn't over as of last November. This country was over as of November 1979.

What is needed is mass acceptance of that, and for smaller nations to emerge. Let the Science/reason/empathy have some land and build a nation, and let hatred/bigotry/willful ignorance/religion have some land and build a nation.

I think we all know who'll be eating and who'll be declaring war on the smarties to steal their food in a decade or two.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Getting the Berlin wall removed was, like, the one good thing he did that is commonly known.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He had nothing to do with it. German journalists triggered people to start tearing it down, and he took credit for it.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

yes. It was an episode of incompetence and mass hysteria that caused the wall to come down. The Warsaw Pact really didnt care about what Ronnie had said

TLDR German Media misreported a change in policy in regards to the Berlin border zone, tens of thousands of people showed up and some just started climbing over the wall or walking right through the gates en masse, and the guards decided -not- to just mow everyone down, a few hours later they were smashing the wall down with hammers. it was a snowball effect

She's a mean, mean lady

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm mildly bothered by the non chronological order of the panels

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

And you are correct.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

--Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fake news! Toilet isn’t gold.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More fake, doesn't use toilet.

[–] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Also it's a complete sentence.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

It fucking sucks that Trump's first term was the good old days compared to now.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"87 years ago" such powerful words to live by 😔