Elevator7009sAlt

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[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey you are right, thank you!

For any other mods unaware of this feature, it only works on posts in communities you mod.

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 3 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Wait, we did? I'm a mod and had no idea I could see peoples' votes. How do I do that? I say, as I probably will never use it until I start seeing my communities consistently getting downvotes on inoffensive posts that have no misinformation and are clearly on topic.

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

!meta@ani.social

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

All the communities I mod are niche enough that I don't think every 24 hours is strictly necessary, though I am active enough to hit that requirement. Something big like !games@lemmy.world definitely needs that kind of requirement, but my quiet little communities are probably okay with twice a week, although I do check Lemmy about everyday anyways—more active users tend to be more likely to be mods.

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 1 month ago

Hey thanks for bringing this to my attention!

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

On one hand I did often see toxicity downvoted on Reddit, and the very few times I saw spam it was correctly heavily downvoted.

I also often saw subs with "be civil!" as a rule frequently let comments that made good points but just had to throw in an unnecessary insult at the end, even when the person they replied to did not bring any kind of aggression at all. Or comments that were nothing but an insult, as long as the person they were insulting expressed an unpopular opinion. And I often saw unpopular opinions, expressed politely; that weren't "well it's just my opinion of course, you are free to disagree :) but I think it would be best for everyone if the Jews were all gassed," that were not obviously hateful opinions expressed in polite wording but that actually added to the discussion, get downvoted. I often hold majority opinions online so I am not usually the victim of this, but man did it feel bad seeing a reasonable, friendly person who maybe wasn't as anticorporate as everyone else or as informed about things get punished and shown disapproval in a way that should have been reserved for comments of "fucking idiot :)". Which actually received upvotes for being said to someone expressing a non-hateful opinion politely and reasonably.

I also see all that unkind behavior on Lemmy, though less often. Poke your head in enough "bad news" posts, especially "company does anticonsumer move" posts on !gaming@lemmy.world and you'll probably see some of what I am talking about. I have since learned to either just read the title, or click to the news article and avoid the comments like the plague if I do not want to be upset by "amazing explanation of a point you agree with followed by mean words to someone who wasn't being offensive," or "people online fighting again" or "comment whose only content is insults gets upvoted"

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So I was browsing the Internet as per usual, and was very surprised to see this ad probably directed at the elderly having an anime-style image. Anyone know what it's from?

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saw someone promoting Lemmy Federate again, something they said in their promotion made me wonder:

What happens if a user is the first to follow a community, so their instance's bot unsubscribes, and then the user unsubscribes?

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago

I guess I am just used to seeing very negative interactions online, especially from two opposing positions, and like to make it extra super clear I'm not trying to be an asshole to you or shit on you, given just how many times I've seen "I disagree" expressed alongside insults, or at least an aggressive tone even if there's no explicit name calling. Call it the pendulum swinging too hard the other way as backlash from it, and a product of me desperately trying to ensure I'm not being misunderstood (it happens!). Thaanks for the details!

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago

I feel like you also have a bit of an advantage because people who don't really care about lemmy might not care about an address like lemmy.zip, but crazypeople.online gets attention, as would ani.social from anime enjoyers like myself.

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thanks for your work on ani.social :) and probably the rest of the Fediverse, I think I have seen you on my many, many Elevator7009 alts including the dead Kbin ones.

 

It seems https://lemmy-federate.com/ is just wildly popular with people suggesting it and eagerly biting on the suggestion they were given. It seems to just completely subvert the intention of not wasting any storage or space or even energy by federating out communities others did not ask for, or federating in communities nobody on the instance subscribes to, by having bots on instances follow communities. So my understanding is that even if nobody on example.instance cares about exampleCommunity@federate.org, example.instance still wastes resources on federating it in if someone submitted it here.

I do see that

If you want to add your instance to the list, you can login from top right. If you are a user, you can ask your instance admin to add your instance.

on this page. And I have heard of instances opting out from this. So I am curious: if your instance does not participate, what does that mean? No bots subscribing to communities on your instance so they go to everyone else? How does it work? I looked at https://lemy.lol/c/lemmyfederate@lemy.lol and https://lemmy-federate.com/ and https://github.com/ismailkarsli/lemmy-federate and did not see an explanation. On the list of instances on lemmy federate almost everyone seems to be enabled. So I'm curious how it works. Half of me thinks this chips away at the whole point of decentralization, just making sure every instance federates tons of stuff in regardless of actual user interest on the instance. The other half says people can do what they want with their instance, maybe I just do not understand how it works and it does not cause the problems I think it does, even if I'm right maybe most Lemmy users want it, and that it doesn't actually impact my life unless I decide to start being an instance host myself (and in that case then I would really need to know how it works, to figure out how my own instance would behave with lemmy-federate and what restrictions I could place on it).

Please let me know if my understanding is wrong, and how it actually works if so, because I have actually tried the provided resources by the lemmy-federate project to understand before coming here and sharing my understanding and disapproval of how it works if it works the way I think it does.

 

Honestly surprised I got to post this game before @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world found it and posted it. He's doing some good work for game communities.

 

Stumbled across this, looks cool and like a place to go finding new tycoon games. I recognize a lot of the games thanks to posts from this community.

 

Is a city builder a subset of tycoon game that just focuses on managing a city or some other polity? Is a tycoon game a city builder except it’s open to you managing something that isn’t a town/city/state?

Crossposted to !citybuilders@sh.itjust.works here. (My instance would not give me the little Crossposted thing when this little bit wasn't edited in and the posts were identical but in separate communities, so I figured I'd just do it myself. Wonder if this is just a my instance deal or if it happened for everyone. And if it happened for everyone, wonder if crossposting only gets auto-shown if it is a link post, and what the requirements are in general to make crossposting automatically show up.)

 

Is a city builder a subset of tycoon game that just focuses on managing a city or some other polity? Is a tycoon game a city builder except it's open to you managing something that isn't a town/city/state?

Crossposted to !tycoon@lemmy.world here. (My instance would not give me the little Crossposted thing when this little bit wasn't edited in and the posts were identical but in separate communities, so I figured I'd just do it myself. Wonder if this is just a my instance deal or if it happened for everyone. And if it happened for everyone, wonder if crossposting only gets auto-shown if it is a link post, and what the requirements are in general to make crossposting automatically show up.)

 

This is the second time I have been hit with what is essentially "no you can't promote a Lemmy community here, that is against our self-promotion rules." (First was r/otomegames mods not wanting to help with a Fedi otome community or even letting me advertise outside of a Self-Promotion Sunday weekly post nobody looks at. !otomegames@ani.social for the curious. This incident is for promoting !infinitynikki@discuss.tchncs.de, and it feels especially bad because the official, non-Fedi community has official presence on freaking TikTok and posts partnered creators on Discord with Twitch streams and the like, but I can't show a little Reddit alternative for people who want to move off of it. Guess I'd have to start streaming and post exclusively to Fedi or something to get up. Pisses me off.)

possibly non-productive frustrationI get it, I really do. Self-promotion restriction helps prevent a community from being flooded with spam of people trying to get your eyeballs to look at THEIR super unique and totally different from the millions of others out there, I promise stream, or YouTube channel, or whatever is the latest hot thing that people will spam you about. On another hand though, it also makes it much harder to drag people out of a big corporate platform where outrage is algorithmically boosted to maximize engagement, and over to here where outrage is not given an unfair boost and it's a lot easier to just look at new posts and close the site for the day. And I recognize it's a bit hypocritical of me to use streamers as an example, because everyone, including me here, thinks they are just the little guy trying to get eyeballs onto something relevant to that community—I think my case is special too, because of blah blah FOSS good and blah blah not trying to get you to buy or make a parasocial relationship with me, but others probably have their own arguments too that have to be unilaterally shut down to prevent everyone clamoring for exceptions and opening the gates to self-promotion hell with no actual discussion of the topic the community is supposed to be about.

It's just really, really frustrating. I can't siphon people off the big corporate platforms because rules against it, so I have to sometimes use that big corporate platform myself to find content for here or to talk about the topic—because nobody's here to talk, because I can't promote it somewhere with lots of people, because those are the big corporate platforms that won't let me advertise. To be fair, I can't advertise in general, but it still feels shitty and anticompetitive, even if the rule's genuine intention was not about forestalling competition and more about not getting overrun by LOOK AT MY ART/STREAM/PLAYTHROUGH/REVIEW.

Have any Lemmy communities here grown without help from mods on a bigger site? (I know the Datahoarder community moved with the official help of r/datahoarder mods, good on them, I'm curious about communities who didn't get that kind of support.) How did they do it?

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