▲ 568 ▼ Zelenskyy Says Ukraine Is Done Holding Back on Russian Oil Refineries (united24media.com) submitted 1 day ago by CityPop@lemmy.today to c/world@quokk.au 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 98 points 1 day ago (24 children) buy russian oil dare others to bomb that just bought, undelivered oil, by insulting or cutting starlinks and such your own oil is gone and local prices skyrocket. Genius 🍿 permalink fedilink source hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (2 children) He really is the best at destruction. The one thing no one can beat him at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Honestly doubt. He can destroy lot only because have good spot, made by others potuses before. Whole world even. But real art (of evil, of any) is to do lot by starting from nowhere. He cannot be good even on being bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (10 children) How long until Trump declares war on Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 28 points 1 day ago (7 children) This would cause enough civil unrest to justify canceling the midterm election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 5 hours ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think Yemen is top of his list right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 1 day ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 23 points 1 day ago (4 children) the chaos is the point. who benefits most from chaos? the rich and powerful. you don't sell your daughter into slavery unless things are real, real bad. so things have to get real, real bad. don't fight the last war permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago Martin was right about chaos being a ladder permalink fedilink source parent [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children) Could agree, if that chaos would be made by anyone smart. Half smart riches could benefit from chaos, from war, claiming they did invest in war industry already (ok, murica did lot of that). Unless, real smarts know, they need to feed the cow fair amount to let the cow give more milk. Too poor society won't let riches beat other riches. Yet another rich will know, they will be real rich on rich streets without poor tents in parks all around - they will be reach in rich society (even if they make that society little rich too). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 child) 3- Dum(b) chess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* 3Ds chess was what that lady in Total Recall was a master at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 day ago* (2 children) if that fuel wouldn't actually make a dent in retail prices in the u.s (it wouldn't. at all. what the u.s. is 'buying' is less than one day's consumption)... then not having that fuel should also not have any effect on retail prices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) gas prices are based on feelings, not reality. If the tiny drop of oil doesn't make it, people will have bad feelings and that makes gas prices go up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 hours ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago (2 children) He really is the best at destruction. The one thing no one can beat him at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Honestly doubt. He can destroy lot only because have good spot, made by others potuses before. Whole world even. But real art (of evil, of any) is to do lot by starting from nowhere. He cannot be good even on being bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Honestly doubt. He can destroy lot only because have good spot, made by others potuses before. Whole world even. But real art (of evil, of any) is to do lot by starting from nowhere. He cannot be good even on being bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago That actually makes my feel better thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (10 children) How long until Trump declares war on Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 28 points 1 day ago (7 children) This would cause enough civil unrest to justify canceling the midterm election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 5 hours ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think Yemen is top of his list right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 1 day ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 28 points 1 day ago (7 children) This would cause enough civil unrest to justify canceling the midterm election permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 5 hours ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (4 children) in the usa? lol… yeah right, maybe twitter unrest, at most permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent [–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 5 hours ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago Which we wouldn't see anyway, as it would be censored by free-speech absolutist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) We can send some French people over to teach them how to be pissed off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 point 5 hours ago If only permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago I hope the French have more patience than I for the lame excuses they'll hear permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) If they try it don't buy it. We had elections during the Civil War. The country was literally broken if half fighting itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago What do you expect me to do? Try to vote anyway? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think Yemen is top of his list right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 1 day ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 11 points 1 day ago You underestimate how short his attention span is. He's fully capable of declaring war on two countries in one week. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 23 points 1 day ago (4 children) the chaos is the point. who benefits most from chaos? the rich and powerful. you don't sell your daughter into slavery unless things are real, real bad. so things have to get real, real bad. don't fight the last war permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago Martin was right about chaos being a ladder permalink fedilink source parent [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children) Could agree, if that chaos would be made by anyone smart. Half smart riches could benefit from chaos, from war, claiming they did invest in war industry already (ok, murica did lot of that). Unless, real smarts know, they need to feed the cow fair amount to let the cow give more milk. Too poor society won't let riches beat other riches. Yet another rich will know, they will be real rich on rich streets without poor tents in parks all around - they will be reach in rich society (even if they make that society little rich too). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 hours ago Martin was right about chaos being a ladder permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children) Could agree, if that chaos would be made by anyone smart. Half smart riches could benefit from chaos, from war, claiming they did invest in war industry already (ok, murica did lot of that). Unless, real smarts know, they need to feed the cow fair amount to let the cow give more milk. Too poor society won't let riches beat other riches. Yet another rich will know, they will be real rich on rich streets without poor tents in parks all around - they will be reach in rich society (even if they make that society little rich too). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bjc@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) riches for whom? the powerful feel like they're being unfairly constrained. that we've gotten too big for our britches, too arrogant. what's the point of societal wealth if you can't make someone give you their child to rape? societal wealth help society mostly and removes authority and power from private wealth. that's the calculus and these people are moloch permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Philanthropy something something, much rare recently, but, at least in theory, still possible. Not everyone (most sure do, but not all) profit from chaos. I call these smarter ones, compared to stupid ones who makes chaos and/or wars for bloody profits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 child) 3- Dum(b) chess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* 3Ds chess was what that lady in Total Recall was a master at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* 3Ds chess was what that lady in Total Recall was a master at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 day ago* (2 children) if that fuel wouldn't actually make a dent in retail prices in the u.s (it wouldn't. at all. what the u.s. is 'buying' is less than one day's consumption)... then not having that fuel should also not have any effect on retail prices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) gas prices are based on feelings, not reality. If the tiny drop of oil doesn't make it, people will have bad feelings and that makes gas prices go up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 hours ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) gas prices are based on feelings, not reality. If the tiny drop of oil doesn't make it, people will have bad feelings and that makes gas prices go up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 hours ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 10 hours ago Who cares product, if You can sell <super shiny gif of "propaganda" word here, with sparkles and music>. permalink fedilink source parent