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[–] 19 points 23 hours ago* (21 children)

Where is the story here?

"AI bad. AI do bad thing. Let's point and laugh at AI doing bad thing to delegitimize the technology in the public's eyes."

Meanwhile, at work, I interact with coding agents on a regular basis, and the results are pretty good. Then it goes through a local blind review by a more powerful agent, get pushed out to the company's code review agent, which is designed to be as critical as possible, check the ticket details, make sure everything matches what the design plan says. Depending on the repo, it might even go through an extra security review.

Then, because we aren't fucking stupid, it goes through the standard code review process by real developers. Sometimes they still find something, sometimes the agent code reviews found way more than a human can. Overall, I trust the current process over our previous one, where some guy spends barely two minutes looking at the code, rubberstamps it, and then QA discovers a few bugs that need fixing, because the damn code review wasn't as through and critical as it should have been.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago

    This is key. Don't use AI to replace people, but as an extra layer to ensure quality. You still need the human code review, but there are things that the AI might catch faster than a human would. There are things that AI might catch that a human might miss. But keep the human in the loop.

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  • [–] 0 points 20 hours ago (19 children)

    Thank you. This is a tool just like everything else. Garbage in equals garbage out. Generative coding in the right hands is an extremely powerful tool.

    It's a difference between kids playing with fireworks. (Vibe coders that know nothing about software development) And rocket scientists at NASA building a new shuttle. (Real developers with controlled thoughtful AI workflows)

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  • [–] 10 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

    Real developer who has done programming every day for over a decade now. AI is shit. It's bad.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

    You can dev as long as you like, doesnt make you good at using a new tool by default. Its a tool, it works for millions of people. Why do you think you're special.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago*

    I have to do the PRs for the rest of my team in india who are just using claude all day. That's what my job turned into. A month ago I was writing code for features, today i'm watching the offshore team produce shit ai. Every person on my team left or was let go, and no replacements. Management literally told us no one is writing code anymore, and if they do, it will be tweaking claude output.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    "Real developer who has done assembly every day for ten years now. Compilers are shit. It's bad"

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago*

    Exactly. I've done "real programming" for four decades; early in my career I was writing assembler and regularly having to review compilers' output because it was shit.

    I do not still do that. You adapt and move with the times, or you find a new career.

    The ones complaining now are mainly the people who thought "cutting and pasting stuff from Stack Overflow without ever understanding it" was skilled labour.

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  • [–] 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Real developer who has been programming daily since the 80s. The quality of the models used to vary pretty wildly, but here in the past year or two, everything has gotten way better and most models are pretty capable. Claude, Gemini, GLM, Kimi, DeepSeek. The prices haven't, but my advice is to ignore the bullshit and just pick the models that work for you. Claude isn't 25x better than DeepSeek, so it doesn't deserve to be 25x the cost.

    I think Claude and OpenAI have started to realize that nobody's buying their overpriced token costs. Although, frankly, none of these prices even make sense compared the cost of compute for an average cloud-based GPU cluster. I can't see how any of these companies are making a profit, just riding the private equality wave until the money runs out. Maybe Amazon, Microsoft, Google, since they own their own hardware, but not OpenAI or Anthropic. China's going to run them out of business in a few years, anyway.

    And of course, if you have the option, use local models. VRAM size is still a bit of a problem, but quantization techniques have gone a long way. You can run a decent model on a personal PC with a bit of tweaking, for home programming tasks, or just a personal model that doesn't immediately sell your data to Peter Thiel.

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  • [–] 9 points 19 hours ago

    My boss has been in it since like the early 80s, programming with basic and assembly. The turning point for him was a month or so ago when Claude found a bug in our mesh firmware that he had been trying to figure out for months. Edge case in hub mode when a message was in route to a device that momentarily dropped from the mesh. Flag gets cleared but no timer set to clear the buffer if the device doesn't show back up in time. Super fun async RF problems, intermittent and ridiculously hard to find proxy buffer issue that was nearly impossible to reproduce. Old devs made code to lie and say the device was offline when it was still send it's UID over RDM. So they knew the bug was there for YEARS. With a ton of logs and access to the specific files, Claude found the bug in like 45 mins. It was kind of crazy.

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  • [–] 6 points 19 hours ago

    As an electrical engineer who has been doing full stack dev, firmware all the way up to board design and layout for about 16 years now, it's getting better every single day. My boss is finally coming around after being the biggest shit talker for the last year and half. Is the code perfect? No. Does anyone write perfect code... NO! It is a tool that needs to be driven correctly. If you don't like it, don't use it! Is it going away? No! And it doesn't look like anything we say is going to change that. Live with it, it's the only option.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Everyone has their own experiences too. Be fucking nice tho, why is everyone so hostile. Go back to reddit if you want to be an asshole. Not you dread beef, just in general.

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  • [–] 9 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

    the level of smugness in this reply, to compare AI slopists with NASA rocket scientists, its fucking astounding

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  • [–] -2 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

    I was making a point about people who are experts in their field, and people who know nothing about said field.

    Username checks out.

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

    Username checks out.

    the last refuge for people who cant mount a proper retort. As expected of someone like you. You grab the low hanging fruit, blind to the trap, then think you're a world leading genius for going directly where you're directed.

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  • [–] 0 points 19 hours ago

    Wow! Says the person who started off throwing insults by calling me smug. I only agreed with your own assement of yourself via your username, if you took that as insult, it's a you problem. But, at least you know that insulting people is disrespectful. Maybe try heeding your own advice before you start talking shit to strangers on the Internet. How "astoundingly" oblivious of you to make that comment.

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