▲ 490 ▼ Tech stocks set to wipe out more than $1 trillion as concerns deepen about the AI boom (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 20 hours ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 118 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 98 points 20 hours ago (53 children) It’s all funny money that never existed to begin with lol. permalink fedilink source hideshow 53 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 67 points 19 hours ago (36 children) True, but as what happend in the dot com bubble, the middle and lower classes will pay. If you lived in a tech area during the bubble burst then, you'll know how bad this is going to be worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] raldone01@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (24 children) So what to do if I suspect a bubble is coming? Sell my investment funds and keep fiat? Buy gold? Buy merchandise to sell later? Buy real estate? I have no idea how to prepare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 hours ago Gold not silver small portions is ok, bonds because different types are liquid govt backed interest, real estate is always good they don't make more land, staying liquid is ideal. The most money is made during down turns if you buy right. Don't time the market it'll never happen. Instead grow steady of buy whole under valued assets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago (4 children) If you see risk being very high, make low risk investments: high yield savings accounts, CDs, bonds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children) CDs? Damn I have a bunch of CDs with music, games. I'm gonna be rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago (1 child) On the real, I've heard the used CD market is making a massive comeback. There's something to be said about physical media in the age of internet becoming more and more scary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) Bonds? Just not US bonds. Trump says he can take care of US debt with inflation, no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jasoman@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago My plan is just to cry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarmitage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* Unless you’re retiring in the next 5-10 years, it’s probably best to stand pat or shift some % out of large-cap funds to mid-caps. But the old adage usually holds true: “time in the market beats timing the market.” In other words, pulling it all out is way harder to get right than just leaving it in. (Your choice- I am not a financial advisor) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago Depends how wealthy you are. If you're wealthy and even remotely intelligent this is where you make even more money. Wealthy people will diversify, they'll sell some of their tech stocks and put it into anything not related to AI. Be it oil or manufacturing or agriculture etc. Then they liquidate those stocks (or loan against them, depending on how wealthy we're talking about) to buy up tech stock when they've crashed. You then wait a few years and make money. If you're not wealthy enough to do that put your money into something stable, like bonds. If you want to be sure you won't lose money (in the sense that the amount of money you put in won't go below what you put in, it can still lose value due to inflation) your bank probably offers term deposits where you let your bank reserve your money for a few years and in return they guarantee something like a 2% annual return on your deposit. And if you're not wealthy enough to do that... You're pretty much fucked. Learn to cook and enjoy cheap meals, start budgeting right now, forget enjoyment and hope you don't get fired. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago Me neither, hold on for the ride? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bad1080@piefed.social 6 points 18 hours ago (4 children) buy the dip (not financial advice) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children) OK I went to the store and bought some queso dip... Now what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 child) You got chips, too, right? ... Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago Enjoy the show permalink fedilink source parent [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (4 children) Pay down short term debt. Build emergency funds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] raldone01@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago (3 children) What short time debt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago* Opposite to long term debt. Long term is mortgages, loans with fixed terms. Short term is credit cards, pay day loans, overdrafts, stuff like klana etc. Get those cleared so that the money you earn stays as yours and you're not paying interest on debt. Once that's done the money were paying to other people can go into high interest savings so you start earning interest on it, and act as a buffer to stop you going back into debt in the future permalink fedilink source parent [+] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] speculate7383@lemmy.today 1 point 5 hours ago Pay off any credit card balance you can. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago* Buy bonds (Probably not US bonds) permalink fedilink source parent [–] anonymouspl@piefed.world 4 points 17 hours ago Not financial advise but I personally decided to keep my money in MSCI World ex USA ETFand some gold + Stoxx 600. For now it seems my strategy is working. Will see where we go from here permalink fedilink source parent [–] weps@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago buy real estate permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 14 points 19 hours ago (10 children) Ohh absolutely, it was devastating to watch, and then to see corporations being bailed out because they were too big to fail. The big question is, is this really the start of a serious crash where the circle jerk of circular money pumped between 4-5 megacorps comes to an end, or do things really go crashing down from here. You need sanity to stabilize…the nuts have spun off the lugs that were holding the wheels of the economy to the hub…i think one wheel just wobbled a little… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) I hope you're not excited for that to happen is what I'm saying. Even if you're not American, you will feel this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 11 points 19 hours ago Ohh absolutely not excited at all. Its a pending shitshow…I didn't vote for any of this and have already cast my vote to have all these idiots removed from office. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) There won't be an AI bailout as with the auto industry and banking. AI hate is bipartisan and no national-level politician is dumb enough to throw public money at them. They're not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they're not the backbone of our financial system. (And once again, I love your lug nut analogy, spot on!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children) Greetings again 👋 Yah I agree, I don’t think it will be a traditional bailout like the auto industry though which was forgivable loans, I think it’ll likely come in the form of additional stock purchases by the US government, which is wild when you think about it. They’re not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they’re not the backbone of our financial system. No but they (AI companies and those claiming to be one including chip companies) directly influence the stock market, and this administration is having its day manipulating the hell out of it making a ton of money along the way. So if there is a way for the to make money on it, it will absolutely happen. Also the chip companies have national defense interests and so it’ a similar scenario as the DOD’s mission can not ever be hampered lol. The line must go up lol. Ha! And thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children) One sticking point, Trump can't spend that kind of money and he's about to lose the House and possibly the Senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 17 hours ago (1 child) It was never even actual fiat currency. Just numbers in a computer somewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Exactly, presumed value based upon future worth permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (13 children) and then will there be jobs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 20 points 19 hours ago (9 children) You would assume so…but who knows. We have a wanna be dictator at the helm in the US that has the mental capacity of goldfish, so fiscal responsibility isn’t exactly this administrations forte! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (4 children) I forsee layoffs instead of more jobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children) It is quite possible, the giant hiring spree during covid and immediately after was never going to last unfortunately. Maybe after the midterms things will change in a positive direction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (2 children) They are desperately trying to stave off the crash until Democrats have a majority so it can be blamed on the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children) What a terrible insult to goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children) It is, but there is no reason to be coy about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 child) But can you be koi about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 19 hours ago No, the billionaires will continue to hoard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago (1 child) If you can't afford bread, you should just eat cake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 67 points 19 hours ago (36 children) True, but as what happend in the dot com bubble, the middle and lower classes will pay. If you lived in a tech area during the bubble burst then, you'll know how bad this is going to be worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] raldone01@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (24 children) So what to do if I suspect a bubble is coming? Sell my investment funds and keep fiat? Buy gold? Buy merchandise to sell later? Buy real estate? I have no idea how to prepare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 hours ago Gold not silver small portions is ok, bonds because different types are liquid govt backed interest, real estate is always good they don't make more land, staying liquid is ideal. The most money is made during down turns if you buy right. Don't time the market it'll never happen. Instead grow steady of buy whole under valued assets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago (4 children) If you see risk being very high, make low risk investments: high yield savings accounts, CDs, bonds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children) CDs? Damn I have a bunch of CDs with music, games. I'm gonna be rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago (1 child) On the real, I've heard the used CD market is making a massive comeback. There's something to be said about physical media in the age of internet becoming more and more scary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) Bonds? Just not US bonds. Trump says he can take care of US debt with inflation, no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jasoman@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago My plan is just to cry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarmitage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* Unless you’re retiring in the next 5-10 years, it’s probably best to stand pat or shift some % out of large-cap funds to mid-caps. But the old adage usually holds true: “time in the market beats timing the market.” In other words, pulling it all out is way harder to get right than just leaving it in. (Your choice- I am not a financial advisor) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago Depends how wealthy you are. If you're wealthy and even remotely intelligent this is where you make even more money. Wealthy people will diversify, they'll sell some of their tech stocks and put it into anything not related to AI. Be it oil or manufacturing or agriculture etc. Then they liquidate those stocks (or loan against them, depending on how wealthy we're talking about) to buy up tech stock when they've crashed. You then wait a few years and make money. If you're not wealthy enough to do that put your money into something stable, like bonds. If you want to be sure you won't lose money (in the sense that the amount of money you put in won't go below what you put in, it can still lose value due to inflation) your bank probably offers term deposits where you let your bank reserve your money for a few years and in return they guarantee something like a 2% annual return on your deposit. And if you're not wealthy enough to do that... You're pretty much fucked. Learn to cook and enjoy cheap meals, start budgeting right now, forget enjoyment and hope you don't get fired. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago Me neither, hold on for the ride? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bad1080@piefed.social 6 points 18 hours ago (4 children) buy the dip (not financial advice) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children) OK I went to the store and bought some queso dip... Now what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 child) You got chips, too, right? ... Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago Enjoy the show permalink fedilink source parent [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (4 children) Pay down short term debt. Build emergency funds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] raldone01@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago (3 children) What short time debt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago* Opposite to long term debt. Long term is mortgages, loans with fixed terms. Short term is credit cards, pay day loans, overdrafts, stuff like klana etc. Get those cleared so that the money you earn stays as yours and you're not paying interest on debt. Once that's done the money were paying to other people can go into high interest savings so you start earning interest on it, and act as a buffer to stop you going back into debt in the future permalink fedilink source parent [+] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] speculate7383@lemmy.today 1 point 5 hours ago Pay off any credit card balance you can. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago* Buy bonds (Probably not US bonds) permalink fedilink source parent [–] anonymouspl@piefed.world 4 points 17 hours ago Not financial advise but I personally decided to keep my money in MSCI World ex USA ETFand some gold + Stoxx 600. For now it seems my strategy is working. Will see where we go from here permalink fedilink source parent [–] weps@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago buy real estate permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 14 points 19 hours ago (10 children) Ohh absolutely, it was devastating to watch, and then to see corporations being bailed out because they were too big to fail. The big question is, is this really the start of a serious crash where the circle jerk of circular money pumped between 4-5 megacorps comes to an end, or do things really go crashing down from here. You need sanity to stabilize…the nuts have spun off the lugs that were holding the wheels of the economy to the hub…i think one wheel just wobbled a little… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) I hope you're not excited for that to happen is what I'm saying. Even if you're not American, you will feel this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 11 points 19 hours ago Ohh absolutely not excited at all. Its a pending shitshow…I didn't vote for any of this and have already cast my vote to have all these idiots removed from office. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) There won't be an AI bailout as with the auto industry and banking. AI hate is bipartisan and no national-level politician is dumb enough to throw public money at them. They're not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they're not the backbone of our financial system. (And once again, I love your lug nut analogy, spot on!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children) Greetings again 👋 Yah I agree, I don’t think it will be a traditional bailout like the auto industry though which was forgivable loans, I think it’ll likely come in the form of additional stock purchases by the US government, which is wild when you think about it. They’re not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they’re not the backbone of our financial system. No but they (AI companies and those claiming to be one including chip companies) directly influence the stock market, and this administration is having its day manipulating the hell out of it making a ton of money along the way. So if there is a way for the to make money on it, it will absolutely happen. Also the chip companies have national defense interests and so it’ a similar scenario as the DOD’s mission can not ever be hampered lol. The line must go up lol. Ha! And thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children) One sticking point, Trump can't spend that kind of money and he's about to lose the House and possibly the Senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (24 children) So what to do if I suspect a bubble is coming? Sell my investment funds and keep fiat? Buy gold? Buy merchandise to sell later? Buy real estate? I have no idea how to prepare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 hours ago Gold not silver small portions is ok, bonds because different types are liquid govt backed interest, real estate is always good they don't make more land, staying liquid is ideal. The most money is made during down turns if you buy right. Don't time the market it'll never happen. Instead grow steady of buy whole under valued assets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago (4 children) If you see risk being very high, make low risk investments: high yield savings accounts, CDs, bonds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children) CDs? Damn I have a bunch of CDs with music, games. I'm gonna be rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago (1 child) On the real, I've heard the used CD market is making a massive comeback. There's something to be said about physical media in the age of internet becoming more and more scary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) Bonds? Just not US bonds. Trump says he can take care of US debt with inflation, no problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jasoman@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago My plan is just to cry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarmitage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* Unless you’re retiring in the next 5-10 years, it’s probably best to stand pat or shift some % out of large-cap funds to mid-caps. But the old adage usually holds true: “time in the market beats timing the market.” In other words, pulling it all out is way harder to get right than just leaving it in. (Your choice- I am not a financial advisor) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago Depends how wealthy you are. If you're wealthy and even remotely intelligent this is where you make even more money. Wealthy people will diversify, they'll sell some of their tech stocks and put it into anything not related to AI. Be it oil or manufacturing or agriculture etc. Then they liquidate those stocks (or loan against them, depending on how wealthy we're talking about) to buy up tech stock when they've crashed. You then wait a few years and make money. If you're not wealthy enough to do that put your money into something stable, like bonds. If you want to be sure you won't lose money (in the sense that the amount of money you put in won't go below what you put in, it can still lose value due to inflation) your bank probably offers term deposits where you let your bank reserve your money for a few years and in return they guarantee something like a 2% annual return on your deposit. And if you're not wealthy enough to do that... You're pretty much fucked. Learn to cook and enjoy cheap meals, start budgeting right now, forget enjoyment and hope you don't get fired. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago Me neither, hold on for the ride? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bad1080@piefed.social 6 points 18 hours ago (4 children) buy the dip (not financial advice) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children) OK I went to the store and bought some queso dip... Now what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 child) You got chips, too, right? ... Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago Enjoy the show permalink fedilink source parent [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (4 children) Pay down short term debt. Build emergency funds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] raldone01@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago (3 children) What short time debt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago* Opposite to long term debt. Long term is mortgages, loans with fixed terms. Short term is credit cards, pay day loans, overdrafts, stuff like klana etc. Get those cleared so that the money you earn stays as yours and you're not paying interest on debt. Once that's done the money were paying to other people can go into high interest savings so you start earning interest on it, and act as a buffer to stop you going back into debt in the future permalink fedilink source parent [+] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] speculate7383@lemmy.today 1 point 5 hours ago Pay off any credit card balance you can. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago* Buy bonds (Probably not US bonds) permalink fedilink source parent [–] anonymouspl@piefed.world 4 points 17 hours ago Not financial advise but I personally decided to keep my money in MSCI World ex USA ETFand some gold + Stoxx 600. For now it seems my strategy is working. Will see where we go from here permalink fedilink source parent [–] weps@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago buy real estate permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 point 8 hours ago Gold not silver small portions is ok, bonds because different types are liquid govt backed interest, real estate is always good they don't make more land, staying liquid is ideal. The most money is made during down turns if you buy right. Don't time the market it'll never happen. Instead grow steady of buy whole under valued assets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago (4 children) If you see risk being very high, make low risk investments: high yield savings accounts, CDs, bonds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children) CDs? Damn I have a bunch of CDs with music, games. I'm gonna be rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago (1 child) On the real, I've heard the used CD market is making a massive comeback. There's something to be said about physical media in the age of internet becoming more and more scary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) Bonds? Just not US bonds. Trump says he can take care of US debt with inflation, no problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children) CDs? Damn I have a bunch of CDs with music, games. I'm gonna be rich. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago (1 child) On the real, I've heard the used CD market is making a massive comeback. There's something to be said about physical media in the age of internet becoming more and more scary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago (1 child) On the real, I've heard the used CD market is making a massive comeback. There's something to be said about physical media in the age of internet becoming more and more scary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) Bonds? Just not US bonds. Trump says he can take care of US debt with inflation, no problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago My plan is just to cry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarmitage@piefed.social 5 points 15 hours ago* Unless you’re retiring in the next 5-10 years, it’s probably best to stand pat or shift some % out of large-cap funds to mid-caps. But the old adage usually holds true: “time in the market beats timing the market.” In other words, pulling it all out is way harder to get right than just leaving it in. (Your choice- I am not a financial advisor) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago Depends how wealthy you are. If you're wealthy and even remotely intelligent this is where you make even more money. Wealthy people will diversify, they'll sell some of their tech stocks and put it into anything not related to AI. Be it oil or manufacturing or agriculture etc. Then they liquidate those stocks (or loan against them, depending on how wealthy we're talking about) to buy up tech stock when they've crashed. You then wait a few years and make money. If you're not wealthy enough to do that put your money into something stable, like bonds. If you want to be sure you won't lose money (in the sense that the amount of money you put in won't go below what you put in, it can still lose value due to inflation) your bank probably offers term deposits where you let your bank reserve your money for a few years and in return they guarantee something like a 2% annual return on your deposit. And if you're not wealthy enough to do that... You're pretty much fucked. Learn to cook and enjoy cheap meals, start budgeting right now, forget enjoyment and hope you don't get fired. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago Me neither, hold on for the ride? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bad1080@piefed.social 6 points 18 hours ago (4 children) buy the dip (not financial advice) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children) OK I went to the store and bought some queso dip... Now what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 child) You got chips, too, right? ... Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago Enjoy the show permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 17 hours ago (3 children) OK I went to the store and bought some queso dip... Now what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 child) You got chips, too, right? ... Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent [–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago Enjoy the show permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 child) You got chips, too, right? ... Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (4 children) Pay down short term debt. Build emergency funds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] raldone01@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago (3 children) What short time debt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago* Opposite to long term debt. Long term is mortgages, loans with fixed terms. Short term is credit cards, pay day loans, overdrafts, stuff like klana etc. Get those cleared so that the money you earn stays as yours and you're not paying interest on debt. Once that's done the money were paying to other people can go into high interest savings so you start earning interest on it, and act as a buffer to stop you going back into debt in the future permalink fedilink source parent [+] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] speculate7383@lemmy.today 1 point 5 hours ago Pay off any credit card balance you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 1 point 9 hours ago (3 children) What short time debt? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago* Opposite to long term debt. Long term is mortgages, loans with fixed terms. Short term is credit cards, pay day loans, overdrafts, stuff like klana etc. Get those cleared so that the money you earn stays as yours and you're not paying interest on debt. Once that's done the money were paying to other people can go into high interest savings so you start earning interest on it, and act as a buffer to stop you going back into debt in the future permalink fedilink source parent [+] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 4 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] speculate7383@lemmy.today 1 point 5 hours ago Pay off any credit card balance you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 point 2 hours ago* Opposite to long term debt. Long term is mortgages, loans with fixed terms. Short term is credit cards, pay day loans, overdrafts, stuff like klana etc. Get those cleared so that the money you earn stays as yours and you're not paying interest on debt. Once that's done the money were paying to other people can go into high interest savings so you start earning interest on it, and act as a buffer to stop you going back into debt in the future permalink fedilink source parent
[–] speculate7383@lemmy.today 1 point 5 hours ago Pay off any credit card balance you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago* Buy bonds (Probably not US bonds) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anonymouspl@piefed.world 4 points 17 hours ago Not financial advise but I personally decided to keep my money in MSCI World ex USA ETFand some gold + Stoxx 600. For now it seems my strategy is working. Will see where we go from here permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 14 points 19 hours ago (10 children) Ohh absolutely, it was devastating to watch, and then to see corporations being bailed out because they were too big to fail. The big question is, is this really the start of a serious crash where the circle jerk of circular money pumped between 4-5 megacorps comes to an end, or do things really go crashing down from here. You need sanity to stabilize…the nuts have spun off the lugs that were holding the wheels of the economy to the hub…i think one wheel just wobbled a little… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) I hope you're not excited for that to happen is what I'm saying. Even if you're not American, you will feel this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 11 points 19 hours ago Ohh absolutely not excited at all. Its a pending shitshow…I didn't vote for any of this and have already cast my vote to have all these idiots removed from office. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) There won't be an AI bailout as with the auto industry and banking. AI hate is bipartisan and no national-level politician is dumb enough to throw public money at them. They're not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they're not the backbone of our financial system. (And once again, I love your lug nut analogy, spot on!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children) Greetings again 👋 Yah I agree, I don’t think it will be a traditional bailout like the auto industry though which was forgivable loans, I think it’ll likely come in the form of additional stock purchases by the US government, which is wild when you think about it. They’re not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they’re not the backbone of our financial system. No but they (AI companies and those claiming to be one including chip companies) directly influence the stock market, and this administration is having its day manipulating the hell out of it making a ton of money along the way. So if there is a way for the to make money on it, it will absolutely happen. Also the chip companies have national defense interests and so it’ a similar scenario as the DOD’s mission can not ever be hampered lol. The line must go up lol. Ha! And thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children) One sticking point, Trump can't spend that kind of money and he's about to lose the House and possibly the Senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago (1 child) I hope you're not excited for that to happen is what I'm saying. Even if you're not American, you will feel this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 11 points 19 hours ago Ohh absolutely not excited at all. Its a pending shitshow…I didn't vote for any of this and have already cast my vote to have all these idiots removed from office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 11 points 19 hours ago Ohh absolutely not excited at all. Its a pending shitshow…I didn't vote for any of this and have already cast my vote to have all these idiots removed from office. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) There won't be an AI bailout as with the auto industry and banking. AI hate is bipartisan and no national-level politician is dumb enough to throw public money at them. They're not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they're not the backbone of our financial system. (And once again, I love your lug nut analogy, spot on!) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children) Greetings again 👋 Yah I agree, I don’t think it will be a traditional bailout like the auto industry though which was forgivable loans, I think it’ll likely come in the form of additional stock purchases by the US government, which is wild when you think about it. They’re not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they’re not the backbone of our financial system. No but they (AI companies and those claiming to be one including chip companies) directly influence the stock market, and this administration is having its day manipulating the hell out of it making a ton of money along the way. So if there is a way for the to make money on it, it will absolutely happen. Also the chip companies have national defense interests and so it’ a similar scenario as the DOD’s mission can not ever be hampered lol. The line must go up lol. Ha! And thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children) One sticking point, Trump can't spend that kind of money and he's about to lose the House and possibly the Senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children) Greetings again 👋 Yah I agree, I don’t think it will be a traditional bailout like the auto industry though which was forgivable loans, I think it’ll likely come in the form of additional stock purchases by the US government, which is wild when you think about it. They’re not a huge employment/manufacturing concern like autos and they’re not the backbone of our financial system. No but they (AI companies and those claiming to be one including chip companies) directly influence the stock market, and this administration is having its day manipulating the hell out of it making a ton of money along the way. So if there is a way for the to make money on it, it will absolutely happen. Also the chip companies have national defense interests and so it’ a similar scenario as the DOD’s mission can not ever be hampered lol. The line must go up lol. Ha! And thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children) One sticking point, Trump can't spend that kind of money and he's about to lose the House and possibly the Senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago (2 children) One sticking point, Trump can't spend that kind of money and he's about to lose the House and possibly the Senate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child) We can only hope…but his family can spend it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago LOL, the entire Trump clan couldn't put a tiny dent in a bailout that would cost an easy trillion dollars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 17 hours ago (1 child) It was never even actual fiat currency. Just numbers in a computer somewhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Exactly, presumed value based upon future worth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Exactly, presumed value based upon future worth permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (13 children) and then will there be jobs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 20 points 19 hours ago (9 children) You would assume so…but who knows. We have a wanna be dictator at the helm in the US that has the mental capacity of goldfish, so fiscal responsibility isn’t exactly this administrations forte! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (4 children) I forsee layoffs instead of more jobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children) It is quite possible, the giant hiring spree during covid and immediately after was never going to last unfortunately. Maybe after the midterms things will change in a positive direction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (2 children) They are desperately trying to stave off the crash until Democrats have a majority so it can be blamed on the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children) What a terrible insult to goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children) It is, but there is no reason to be coy about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 child) But can you be koi about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 19 hours ago No, the billionaires will continue to hoard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago (1 child) If you can't afford bread, you should just eat cake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 20 points 19 hours ago (9 children) You would assume so…but who knows. We have a wanna be dictator at the helm in the US that has the mental capacity of goldfish, so fiscal responsibility isn’t exactly this administrations forte! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (4 children) I forsee layoffs instead of more jobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children) It is quite possible, the giant hiring spree during covid and immediately after was never going to last unfortunately. Maybe after the midterms things will change in a positive direction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (2 children) They are desperately trying to stave off the crash until Democrats have a majority so it can be blamed on the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children) What a terrible insult to goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children) It is, but there is no reason to be coy about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 child) But can you be koi about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (4 children) I forsee layoffs instead of more jobs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children) It is quite possible, the giant hiring spree during covid and immediately after was never going to last unfortunately. Maybe after the midterms things will change in a positive direction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (2 children) They are desperately trying to stave off the crash until Democrats have a majority so it can be blamed on the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children) It is quite possible, the giant hiring spree during covid and immediately after was never going to last unfortunately. Maybe after the midterms things will change in a positive direction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (2 children) They are desperately trying to stave off the crash until Democrats have a majority so it can be blamed on the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (2 children) They are desperately trying to stave off the crash until Democrats have a majority so it can be blamed on the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago While that has worked in the past, I don’t think it’s gonna fly this time. Optics matter and right now GOP are far more all in on AI, it’s also Cheeto’s halfway point, things crashing badly with Dems having some power won’t look like it’s the Dems in control. The fact that the economy took a bad turn right when he came into office is an association that most people won’t forget. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 17 hours ago Ahh good point, it is certainly a method that works for them since they really don’t have much else to campaign on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children) What a terrible insult to goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children) It is, but there is no reason to be coy about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 child) But can you be koi about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children) It is, but there is no reason to be coy about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 child) But can you be koi about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 child) But can you be koi about it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BuckFutter@timeyak.com 4 points 18 hours ago Man, there is something really fishy about your question? Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 19 hours ago No, the billionaires will continue to hoard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago (1 child) If you can't afford bread, you should just eat cake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)