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Lula’s Digital Army Model Spreads to France, Spain and Argentina (clashreport.com)
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Olá, Bonjour, Hola, Hello! You can make it work, it can be done. Get together, meet up. Do it the way you prefer but don't let those wanna be oppressors rule over your lives, it never ends well.

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[–] 11 points 2 days ago (10 children)

the difference is that one paid for bot farms while the other one did political praxis. the right doesn't have actual support from people on the street, they need to invent reality.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    If you belive that what Janones did is praxis and not paid, thats on you

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    i'm not saying there wasn't money involved, but if you think a bot farm which is essentially not people is the same as people doing dumb missions on social media is the same thats on you.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 day ago* (7 children)

    Our enemy's shameful bot farm

    Our online blessed army

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (6 children)

    Do you not believe in the concept of paid organizers?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Explain your question better, please

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (4 children)

    It sounds like you're essentially saying that paying organizers is the same as running bot farms.

    This seems to imply that you don't believe organizers should be paid.

    ... or you don't believe organizers are human, but that's probably not what you meant.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    My point is both of them did the same, both paid people and bots, but it was treated as a problem when Bolsonaro did, but was ok when Lula did

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    But they didn't do the same, Lula didn't run bot farms. That's qualitatively different than paying organizers.

    You're the one equivocating between running bot farms and paying organizers, so I'll ask again: do you not believe organizers should be paid? It's a simple question, don't know why you won't answer.

    EDIT Wait, I think I see the problem: you think bot farms are people.

    They're not, bots are automated systems with very few people involved.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    If lula did what he did without bots the msn is jesus christ himself, because it would be a miracle. Im not a religious person, so thats a no for me.

    If you say organizer as a political activist, if they are not paid for their work then mostly only people who can get paid without working could be a political activist. Sounds like nonsense

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago*

    Professional organizers are people who get paid for their political work. Activists are just volunteers.

    And there was no "miracle" involved, just people recognizing they needed to act. This was a coordinated effort by a smaller team of professional (paid) organizers and a much larger mass of activists (unpaid). There's no proof bots were involved.

    You're just judging based on vibes.

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