Olá, Bonjour, Hola, Hello! You can make it work, it can be done. Get together, meet up. Do it the way you prefer but don't let those wanna be oppressors rule over your lives, it never ends well.

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[+] -10 points 20 hours ago (12 children)

When Bolsonaro did it last election it was treated as a crime, but when Lula does its ok. Leftists should not agree to this kind of thing just because it was done by the left

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  • [–] 4 points 3 hours ago

    Lula's camp had to fight against the media platform owners, who bent over backwards to help Bolsonaro. If the media (including social media) has it's thumbs on the scale in your opponent's favor, and you don't organize against it you will lose. Of course, either way it is a kind of manipulation, but I prefer the kind of manipulation that requires hundreds of thousands of real people to take part, rather than a few oligarchs.

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  • [–] 20 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

    bolsonaro paid corporations for automated mass messaging, this is more like an ar game with the members of a massive group. it's different because one is organic and the other one is a synthetic endeavour of the international bourgeoisie.

    lula is not the left, tho, and if this model spreads to argentina for example to promote peronism it's the same shit. of course i rather have them than gringo mc gringus fascist maximus as the president but it's not that much better. it's still reformist bullshit.

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  • [–] -4 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

    I dont think they are all that different. Lula also paid corporations to do his campaing.

    Besides, even if this differnce existed, it wouldnt be suficient to say one is legit and the other isnt

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  • [–] 8 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

    the difference is that one paid for bot farms while the other one did political praxis. the right doesn't have actual support from people on the street, they need to invent reality.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    If you belive that what Janones did is praxis and not paid, thats on you

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    i'm not saying there wasn't money involved, but if you think a bot farm which is essentially not people is the same as people doing dumb missions on social media is the same thats on you.

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