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Hot take: Strongest creatures in the setting shouldn't just be clowned by PCs with no resistance. (europe.pub)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/rpgmemes@ttrpg.network
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Inspired by frustrating conversation I had. For those curious, that was the statblock of Caine, father of the vampires.

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[–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

Depends on the level of the PC, and/or if they can come up with a really good reason why a bunch of weak mortals could feasibly defeat a literal god. If the plan is clever enough, fuck the rules and stats. The point is to have fun.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It's never the real god, just a physical avatar. There's still a lot of Batman vs Superman narrative horseshit in the idea though

    "Oh you surprised the guy who moves faster than most speedsters and can hear and see everything around him. Sure, okay, then he leaves and throws an asteroid he found within half a second from orbit before you're done blinking"

    DnD avatars don't really scale that hard but neither do PCs so all of those fights revolve around the avatar being stupid or using a McGuffin

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    D&D 3.5 characters can scale pretty high

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not on a Superman or Wonder Woman level but I think you could make a strong argument that Wish fixes (or breaks) everything by itself.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    My character that got most close to broken was a Master Of Many Forms druid, though I was playing with a group with two well skilled min-maxers who were ridiculous from the outset at level 3

    Wish can't make you great, it can't do much more than the equivalent of about half a level, you need a broken character design from the start

    Of course there's also support for epic level progression taking you beyond level 20. A druid at level 20 could face an army and win

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