I think our disagreement here is just how important electoralism is for us.

I think electoralism has practically delivered us into the jaws of fascism and has done nothing but delay the inevitable.

You think for some reason that electoralism Will somehow save us and bring about harm reduction.

I am literally quoting arguments from Rosa Luxembourg, Lenin, Engels, and Marx which all focused quite heavily on how to affect change in the United States and in general and all of them came to the conclusion that spending a lot of time with electoralism is a waste of time. You will never have to say you want and you will never get what you want because they are incentivized to not listen to you.

Your responses are standard reform is mainstream media responses that are delivered every single time someone brings out the talking point that electoralism and this strategy is what brought us here in the first place. When I'm advocating to do something different you're telling me that I'm wrong, when I point out that it's not work historically you tell me that we just need to give it another, when I point out how the strategy of harm reduction hasn't worked in 20 years you point out that voters need to not be apathetic to get things done. Which is true but you're not answering how you get those apathetic voters to vote and advocating on Lemmy ain't it brother.

I'm not sitting here advocating to anybody who didn't vote I'm sitting here telling people who want to spend a bunch of time trying to advocate for people to vote that it's a waste of their time and that they should be more focused on getting people to engage in electoral politics and that that interest will drive them to vote.