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[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus -3 points 1 year ago (10 children) All of human knowledge is not encoded into academia. Academia is heavily western biased. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (4 children) Then get digitizing. We have unicode and AI text extraction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Not every human knowledge is written ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think anyone would stop you from writing it down. Could even get a lot of respect for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 year ago Well personally I can’t because I’m functionally deafmute. But anyways this is all beside my original point which was that published academia doesn’t contain all of human knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago So write it down... permalink fedilink source parent [–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (4 children) I don't understand why you're getting downvoted. You're not wrong. Sci-Hub focuses on academic journal articles, which are a pretty novel phenomenon. The first journal was created in the 17th century, and journals didn't become the primary medium for publications until well into the 19th century. I wouldn't say academia is "biased" per se, but it's true that the academic publishing business is heavily dominated by western companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpicyAnt@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago I think both statements are true - not all knowledge is recorded by academia, and academia is heavily western biased. What I suspect is that the down-votes are because the first user was using hyperbole to make a positive comment about our ability to archive these documents and their value. The response points out something that is evident - obviously academic papers do not hold all human knowledge - and shifts the conversation into a not so casual topic of western biases. This sudden shift of the conversation from friendly-casual to geopolitical with little motivation can make some users upset. OR, as the other person suggested, maybe the mention of 'western bias' is enough to trigger some. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9bananas@feddit.org -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) the downvotes are due to the bullshit "bias" claim. let's you know they're a tankie... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 year ago Ah yes, I’m a tankie because I acknowledge the fact academia is dominated by the west? And therefore western epistemologies are favoured. I hope people stop using tankie as a meaningless word like in this case. And actually for its original meaning, which is so called “communists” who support the brutal repression of states like the soviet union and china. Which I do not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Or a postmodernist, or someone who knows their history? Or are you conna tell me the Ethiopian view is as represented as the English one? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (4 children) Then get digitizing. We have unicode and AI text extraction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Not every human knowledge is written ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think anyone would stop you from writing it down. Could even get a lot of respect for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 year ago Well personally I can’t because I’m functionally deafmute. But anyways this is all beside my original point which was that published academia doesn’t contain all of human knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago So write it down... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Not every human knowledge is written ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think anyone would stop you from writing it down. Could even get a lot of respect for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 year ago Well personally I can’t because I’m functionally deafmute. But anyways this is all beside my original point which was that published academia doesn’t contain all of human knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago So write it down... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) I don't think anyone would stop you from writing it down. Could even get a lot of respect for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 year ago Well personally I can’t because I’m functionally deafmute. But anyways this is all beside my original point which was that published academia doesn’t contain all of human knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 year ago Well personally I can’t because I’m functionally deafmute. But anyways this is all beside my original point which was that published academia doesn’t contain all of human knowledge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago So write it down... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (4 children) I don't understand why you're getting downvoted. You're not wrong. Sci-Hub focuses on academic journal articles, which are a pretty novel phenomenon. The first journal was created in the 17th century, and journals didn't become the primary medium for publications until well into the 19th century. I wouldn't say academia is "biased" per se, but it's true that the academic publishing business is heavily dominated by western companies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpicyAnt@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago I think both statements are true - not all knowledge is recorded by academia, and academia is heavily western biased. What I suspect is that the down-votes are because the first user was using hyperbole to make a positive comment about our ability to archive these documents and their value. The response points out something that is evident - obviously academic papers do not hold all human knowledge - and shifts the conversation into a not so casual topic of western biases. This sudden shift of the conversation from friendly-casual to geopolitical with little motivation can make some users upset. OR, as the other person suggested, maybe the mention of 'western bias' is enough to trigger some. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9bananas@feddit.org -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) the downvotes are due to the bullshit "bias" claim. let's you know they're a tankie... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 year ago Ah yes, I’m a tankie because I acknowledge the fact academia is dominated by the west? And therefore western epistemologies are favoured. I hope people stop using tankie as a meaningless word like in this case. And actually for its original meaning, which is so called “communists” who support the brutal repression of states like the soviet union and china. Which I do not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Or a postmodernist, or someone who knows their history? Or are you conna tell me the Ethiopian view is as represented as the English one? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpicyAnt@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago I think both statements are true - not all knowledge is recorded by academia, and academia is heavily western biased. What I suspect is that the down-votes are because the first user was using hyperbole to make a positive comment about our ability to archive these documents and their value. The response points out something that is evident - obviously academic papers do not hold all human knowledge - and shifts the conversation into a not so casual topic of western biases. This sudden shift of the conversation from friendly-casual to geopolitical with little motivation can make some users upset. OR, as the other person suggested, maybe the mention of 'western bias' is enough to trigger some. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9bananas@feddit.org -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) the downvotes are due to the bullshit "bias" claim. let's you know they're a tankie... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 year ago Ah yes, I’m a tankie because I acknowledge the fact academia is dominated by the west? And therefore western epistemologies are favoured. I hope people stop using tankie as a meaningless word like in this case. And actually for its original meaning, which is so called “communists” who support the brutal repression of states like the soviet union and china. Which I do not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Or a postmodernist, or someone who knows their history? Or are you conna tell me the Ethiopian view is as represented as the English one? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 year ago Ah yes, I’m a tankie because I acknowledge the fact academia is dominated by the west? And therefore western epistemologies are favoured. I hope people stop using tankie as a meaningless word like in this case. And actually for its original meaning, which is so called “communists” who support the brutal repression of states like the soviet union and china. Which I do not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Or a postmodernist, or someone who knows their history? Or are you conna tell me the Ethiopian view is as represented as the English one? permalink fedilink source parent