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Why do you use what I gave you?! (europe.pub)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 22 points 1 year ago (14 children)

USA needs some worker rights laws(apart from free healthcare, free education and others), in normal countries you'll be in trouble if you somehow didn't take your 28 days(more in some) of vacation, or were spotted at work in those days.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    in normal countries you'll be in trouble if you somehow didn't take your [leave]

    I don't know how it works where you are, in my workplace if you don't take enough leave you need to make an agreement with your manager to take some leave soon; if you fail to make an agreement or the agreement is too far in the future you are put on leave.

    I don't count that as being in trouble, it's about giving the worker the power to say "if you won't approve my leave, the system will force leave and you'll have no choice of when"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I don't like that either. People shouldn't be penalized for not taking vacation. That's just a different form of taking away their choice.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    This is not a good take. It opens for an implicit expectation from your employer that you should not use your vacation. If you get passed over for promotion because you took out vacation it is not really a choice, is it?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's quite a leap

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's not. By requiring people to take leave you ensure leave is available.

    My workplace enforces leave by having limits on how much leave you can accrue, if you exceed the limit you are put on leave.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You sound like someone with no workforce experience whatsoever.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You sound like a manager, looking to control how people handle their vacation time. "Workers get punished for taking vacation" and "workers get punished for not taking vacation" are two sides of the same coin. Personally I'm in favor of "workers can do whatever they want with their PTO without fear of repurcussion".

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    It's not about punishment. If time off is optional than it's a near guarantee that workers will be punished in some way for taking it. At a minimum bosses should have to pay out for unused time off, even though that that will certainly lead to some bosses penalizing those workers.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Well you could work on vacation but it's usually paid 2-4 times per hour. So it depends on your employer willing to pay that much.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have no desire to work on vacation. I have no desire to work at all, I only do it because i.enjoy having food and a place to live. But I don't believe in punishing people for victimless crimes. They're not hurting anyone but themselves by letting their PTO expire, leave them alone.

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