▲ 174 ▼ Framework goes full fash, supports Hyprland and Omarchy (awful.systems) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by BlueMonday1984@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments In case you haven't heard the news, Framework went and publicly sponsored Hyprland (the most toxic part of Wayland by a country mile) and openly shilled Omarchy multiple times (the pet project of fascist shithead David Heinemeier Hansson) recently. In response to well-justified backlash against this, founder Nirav Patel responded with FOSSbro platitudes about "[creating] a big tent" for open source". If you've got any more updates on this self-inflicted shitshow, put them here so they can be collected in one place. (In retrospect, that AI-pilled Framework Desktop should've been a major red flag they were gonna pull this shit.) EDIT (2): Found a solid summary of the situation, and a solid teardown of Nirav's actions - recommend checking them out.
[–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (14 children) Who are the other companies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Shift, an ecoconscious, as-yet untainted tech brand from Germany I thought Lenovo, but I seem to be wrong - they were playing with concepts, nothing on the market yet. If you wish to buy from Shift you might need to enable a translator, as I believe their store is only in German. The only bone some people have picked at in terms of Shift's ethical values is that they manufacture in China, but Shift maintain that their labour standards within the factory are kept high permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago Interesting, thanks, I hadn't heard of Shift. permalink fedilink source parent [–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago I am often skeptical of tablet/keyboard hybrid designs (the PineTab 2 has not exactly been a roaring success for me) but that ShiftBook is straight-up a more visually appealing design than any Framework permalink fedilink source parent [–] flaviat@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago Nice, the shift phone is pretty well supported on postmarketos and their choice of firmware looks consumer friendly permalink fedilink source parent [+] dgerard@awful.systems 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 12 points 1 year ago (7 children) https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) These are expensive and not especially performant, though. Cool, but not the most practical choice on any kind of budget. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago Agreed on pricing, but something this low-volume is always unfortunately going to struggle. The RockChip stuff is a current darling in the FOSS-compatible hardware scene, but I'm not super enthusiastic about it yet. If there isn't an OS image you like, you've got to cobble one together with U-Boot and the DDR support blobs, which is a circa-1999 level of "fun" permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Just my personal opinion but that thing looks ugly af permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not a fan of the rainbow keyboard but at least it can be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think the transparent keycaps around the trackball are also contributing to the revulsion. Not sure why that does not seem to be a configurable option at the time of purchase, but there are probably aftermarket keycaps you could get if needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago True, those aren't my cup of tea either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah it wouldn't be for me tbh. It looks like a luggable from the 90s. Their new one looks somewhat better but I think it is only available for preorder at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago HP launched modular laptop, and Dell did a concept. Of course, this is largely in response to Framework. Not like they'd do it on their own. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) Shift, an ecoconscious, as-yet untainted tech brand from Germany I thought Lenovo, but I seem to be wrong - they were playing with concepts, nothing on the market yet. If you wish to buy from Shift you might need to enable a translator, as I believe their store is only in German. The only bone some people have picked at in terms of Shift's ethical values is that they manufacture in China, but Shift maintain that their labour standards within the factory are kept high permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago Interesting, thanks, I hadn't heard of Shift. permalink fedilink source parent [–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago I am often skeptical of tablet/keyboard hybrid designs (the PineTab 2 has not exactly been a roaring success for me) but that ShiftBook is straight-up a more visually appealing design than any Framework permalink fedilink source parent [–] flaviat@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago Nice, the shift phone is pretty well supported on postmarketos and their choice of firmware looks consumer friendly permalink fedilink source parent [+] dgerard@awful.systems 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago Interesting, thanks, I hadn't heard of Shift. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago I am often skeptical of tablet/keyboard hybrid designs (the PineTab 2 has not exactly been a roaring success for me) but that ShiftBook is straight-up a more visually appealing design than any Framework permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flaviat@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago Nice, the shift phone is pretty well supported on postmarketos and their choice of firmware looks consumer friendly permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 12 points 1 year ago (7 children) https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) These are expensive and not especially performant, though. Cool, but not the most practical choice on any kind of budget. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago Agreed on pricing, but something this low-volume is always unfortunately going to struggle. The RockChip stuff is a current darling in the FOSS-compatible hardware scene, but I'm not super enthusiastic about it yet. If there isn't an OS image you like, you've got to cobble one together with U-Boot and the DDR support blobs, which is a circa-1999 level of "fun" permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Just my personal opinion but that thing looks ugly af permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not a fan of the rainbow keyboard but at least it can be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think the transparent keycaps around the trackball are also contributing to the revulsion. Not sure why that does not seem to be a configurable option at the time of purchase, but there are probably aftermarket keycaps you could get if needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago True, those aren't my cup of tea either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah it wouldn't be for me tbh. It looks like a luggable from the 90s. Their new one looks somewhat better but I think it is only available for preorder at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) These are expensive and not especially performant, though. Cool, but not the most practical choice on any kind of budget. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago Agreed on pricing, but something this low-volume is always unfortunately going to struggle. The RockChip stuff is a current darling in the FOSS-compatible hardware scene, but I'm not super enthusiastic about it yet. If there isn't an OS image you like, you've got to cobble one together with U-Boot and the DDR support blobs, which is a circa-1999 level of "fun" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago Agreed on pricing, but something this low-volume is always unfortunately going to struggle. The RockChip stuff is a current darling in the FOSS-compatible hardware scene, but I'm not super enthusiastic about it yet. If there isn't an OS image you like, you've got to cobble one together with U-Boot and the DDR support blobs, which is a circa-1999 level of "fun" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Just my personal opinion but that thing looks ugly af permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not a fan of the rainbow keyboard but at least it can be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think the transparent keycaps around the trackball are also contributing to the revulsion. Not sure why that does not seem to be a configurable option at the time of purchase, but there are probably aftermarket keycaps you could get if needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago True, those aren't my cup of tea either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah it wouldn't be for me tbh. It looks like a luggable from the 90s. Their new one looks somewhat better but I think it is only available for preorder at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not a fan of the rainbow keyboard but at least it can be turned off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think the transparent keycaps around the trackball are also contributing to the revulsion. Not sure why that does not seem to be a configurable option at the time of purchase, but there are probably aftermarket keycaps you could get if needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago True, those aren't my cup of tea either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think the transparent keycaps around the trackball are also contributing to the revulsion. Not sure why that does not seem to be a configurable option at the time of purchase, but there are probably aftermarket keycaps you could get if needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago True, those aren't my cup of tea either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago True, those aren't my cup of tea either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HyperlinkYourHeart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Yeah it wouldn't be for me tbh. It looks like a luggable from the 90s. Their new one looks somewhat better but I think it is only available for preorder at the moment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago HP launched modular laptop, and Dell did a concept. Of course, this is largely in response to Framework. Not like they'd do it on their own. permalink fedilink source parent