▲ 237 ▼ Are we living in a golden age of stupidity? (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 year ago by FelixCress@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] db2@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (16 children) Yes. Next question. permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (13 children) Nope, humans have always been stupid. People said the same shit when the printing press was invented, or TV, or whatever. Seriously, crack a history book. Modern times are actually pretty good, even with all the bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (6 children) It's pretty good compared to, say, 100 years ago. But is it better than, idk, 10 years ago? This is highly dependent where you live, of course. But, in the US, I can 100% say life was better a decade ago and people weren't outright rejecting intellectualism en masse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FelixCress@lemmy.world [S] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) The idiots didn't have their own eco chamber. As an unfortunate byproduct of the social media they realised how many of them there are and organised themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeoshenkuoDaSimpli@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wish they had an eco chamber! Their echo chamber is vehemently against that, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) 54, American here. Yeah, I think we peaked in the 80s and 90s after a small setback in the 70s. Through 2010 was pretty good as well except for 9/11 fucking up our politics and legislation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd agree the US peaked in the 90s. 2008 really fucked us for almost a decade, though. Economy had essentially recovered by 2014/2015sh until COVID. I'm almost 40, so most of my adult life has been plagued by crisis after crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Quite my last tech support job in 2007, hated it, ready to move up. Didn't score another IT role for 7 years, hated the job I was in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Humans have always been stupid but today technology has made it easier for the dumbest among us to be more influential than any stupid person of any prior era. This, we are in the golden age of stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You could say the exact same thing about the smartest people being able to spread their message, and the two effects cancel out. Same age as any other, more or less. These are human problems that won’t be fixed until we’re no longer human. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago It requires more effort to spread intelligent ideas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago With that said, lately americans seem like a new insane kind of stupid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago New media indeed coincides with revolutions. I disagree with your final assessment. We have yet to see how this turn of new media plays out. Good or bad is a relative. The frame of reference should be contemporary. Just because we ostensibly have technological luxuries not mean things are going well right now. Authoritarianism on another up cycle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] godrik@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yep, as long as we don't change/better ourselves on fundamental/cognitive level, the result will always be the same. Can't make the play field better if the ground rules are broken. Most systems today are shaped by excusing violence and injustice. Violence is violence, no matter what. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It's fake gold spray paint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (13 children) Nope, humans have always been stupid. People said the same shit when the printing press was invented, or TV, or whatever. Seriously, crack a history book. Modern times are actually pretty good, even with all the bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (6 children) It's pretty good compared to, say, 100 years ago. But is it better than, idk, 10 years ago? This is highly dependent where you live, of course. But, in the US, I can 100% say life was better a decade ago and people weren't outright rejecting intellectualism en masse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FelixCress@lemmy.world [S] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) The idiots didn't have their own eco chamber. As an unfortunate byproduct of the social media they realised how many of them there are and organised themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeoshenkuoDaSimpli@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wish they had an eco chamber! Their echo chamber is vehemently against that, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) 54, American here. Yeah, I think we peaked in the 80s and 90s after a small setback in the 70s. Through 2010 was pretty good as well except for 9/11 fucking up our politics and legislation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd agree the US peaked in the 90s. 2008 really fucked us for almost a decade, though. Economy had essentially recovered by 2014/2015sh until COVID. I'm almost 40, so most of my adult life has been plagued by crisis after crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Quite my last tech support job in 2007, hated it, ready to move up. Didn't score another IT role for 7 years, hated the job I was in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Humans have always been stupid but today technology has made it easier for the dumbest among us to be more influential than any stupid person of any prior era. This, we are in the golden age of stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You could say the exact same thing about the smartest people being able to spread their message, and the two effects cancel out. Same age as any other, more or less. These are human problems that won’t be fixed until we’re no longer human. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago It requires more effort to spread intelligent ideas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago With that said, lately americans seem like a new insane kind of stupid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago New media indeed coincides with revolutions. I disagree with your final assessment. We have yet to see how this turn of new media plays out. Good or bad is a relative. The frame of reference should be contemporary. Just because we ostensibly have technological luxuries not mean things are going well right now. Authoritarianism on another up cycle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] godrik@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yep, as long as we don't change/better ourselves on fundamental/cognitive level, the result will always be the same. Can't make the play field better if the ground rules are broken. Most systems today are shaped by excusing violence and injustice. Violence is violence, no matter what. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (6 children) It's pretty good compared to, say, 100 years ago. But is it better than, idk, 10 years ago? This is highly dependent where you live, of course. But, in the US, I can 100% say life was better a decade ago and people weren't outright rejecting intellectualism en masse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FelixCress@lemmy.world [S] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) The idiots didn't have their own eco chamber. As an unfortunate byproduct of the social media they realised how many of them there are and organised themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeoshenkuoDaSimpli@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wish they had an eco chamber! Their echo chamber is vehemently against that, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) 54, American here. Yeah, I think we peaked in the 80s and 90s after a small setback in the 70s. Through 2010 was pretty good as well except for 9/11 fucking up our politics and legislation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd agree the US peaked in the 90s. 2008 really fucked us for almost a decade, though. Economy had essentially recovered by 2014/2015sh until COVID. I'm almost 40, so most of my adult life has been plagued by crisis after crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Quite my last tech support job in 2007, hated it, ready to move up. Didn't score another IT role for 7 years, hated the job I was in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world [S] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children) The idiots didn't have their own eco chamber. As an unfortunate byproduct of the social media they realised how many of them there are and organised themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeoshenkuoDaSimpli@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wish they had an eco chamber! Their echo chamber is vehemently against that, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I wish they had an eco chamber! Their echo chamber is vehemently against that, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) 54, American here. Yeah, I think we peaked in the 80s and 90s after a small setback in the 70s. Through 2010 was pretty good as well except for 9/11 fucking up our politics and legislation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd agree the US peaked in the 90s. 2008 really fucked us for almost a decade, though. Economy had essentially recovered by 2014/2015sh until COVID. I'm almost 40, so most of my adult life has been plagued by crisis after crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Quite my last tech support job in 2007, hated it, ready to move up. Didn't score another IT role for 7 years, hated the job I was in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd agree the US peaked in the 90s. 2008 really fucked us for almost a decade, though. Economy had essentially recovered by 2014/2015sh until COVID. I'm almost 40, so most of my adult life has been plagued by crisis after crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Quite my last tech support job in 2007, hated it, ready to move up. Didn't score another IT role for 7 years, hated the job I was in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Quite my last tech support job in 2007, hated it, ready to move up. Didn't score another IT role for 7 years, hated the job I was in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) Humans have always been stupid but today technology has made it easier for the dumbest among us to be more influential than any stupid person of any prior era. This, we are in the golden age of stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You could say the exact same thing about the smartest people being able to spread their message, and the two effects cancel out. Same age as any other, more or less. These are human problems that won’t be fixed until we’re no longer human. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago It requires more effort to spread intelligent ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) You could say the exact same thing about the smartest people being able to spread their message, and the two effects cancel out. Same age as any other, more or less. These are human problems that won’t be fixed until we’re no longer human. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago It requires more effort to spread intelligent ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago It requires more effort to spread intelligent ideas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago With that said, lately americans seem like a new insane kind of stupid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago New media indeed coincides with revolutions. I disagree with your final assessment. We have yet to see how this turn of new media plays out. Good or bad is a relative. The frame of reference should be contemporary. Just because we ostensibly have technological luxuries not mean things are going well right now. Authoritarianism on another up cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] godrik@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yep, as long as we don't change/better ourselves on fundamental/cognitive level, the result will always be the same. Can't make the play field better if the ground rules are broken. Most systems today are shaped by excusing violence and injustice. Violence is violence, no matter what. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) It's fake gold spray paint. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. permalink fedilink source parent