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Microsoft confirms Windows 11 is about to change massively, gets enormous backlash - Neowin (www.neowin.net)
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A few days ago, Davuluri shared his excitement about it on his official X handle. He seemed very eager to reveal what the company has in mind at the upcoming Ignite event regarding the agentic OS plans.

Unfortunately for Microsoft and Davuluri, the response has been overwhelmingly negative, so much so that the comments on that X post have now been disabled.

Made me laugh. :)

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[–] 34 points 10 months ago* (21 children)

You say that, yet Mac and Linux grew quite a bit over the past couple years. It's true, not everyone will drop Windows right after whatever bullshit they announce, but software and platforms are rarely abandonned over night.

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  • [+] -14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

    Doesn't matter much what users do. Corporations are nowhere close to ditching Windows.

    No way to manage a fleet of Linux or Mac machines. Nothing comes close to the power of Active Directory and a bit of PowerShell.

    Funny enough, I guarantee there will be GPOs and PS commandlets that let you disable the AI bullshit.

    EDIT: Apparently I'm addressing a crowd who has never managed a fleet. I'll bow to your expertise.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    I've seen a lot of companies that are all mac. And didnt a European government just change to all linux ?

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    My last company was a software dev and even they were only 70/40 Windows/Mac.

    Yes, seems lots of European agencies are moving to FOSS, but more towards open office solutions. Moving to Linux for the OS makes fleet management pure hell. I know LDAP exists, but that doesn't begin to compare to AD.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Please tell us the name of this 110% software dev, so we can avoid it. There is a min amount of math needed here.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Made a typo smartass, and you know it. 70/30.

    Now tell us all how smart you really are. Tell us how to manage a fleet of Linux or Mac machines, or even a mixed environment. One reason I passed an interview was with this very question! Go.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I don't work in the industry anymore, but I did manage a few "fleets" in my day. However I do know that if I made such a typo (on the literal only data point) I would also be poked fun of when I did work in the terrible tech world. And if I lashed out I would be further dragged over the coals as let's face it, that would be kinda pathetic.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like AD is a solution for a problem that Microsoft created.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    It is a solution for a problem that companies had and isn't solved in Linux.

    Because Linux users think all computers need to be as open as possible, while Windows admins know we need to protect users from themselves. Especially when it comes to highly important data.

    Even letting users install software themselves leads to users installing wrong version, malware, software they don't need, software they shouldn't use, incompatible software, and software they have no clue about but someone recommended.

    The most vulnerable aspect of cybersecurity is still the users.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You do know you can use AD with Linux, don't you?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    I would love an explanation of how AD can control Linux machines! Can I reset you Linux password over AD? Can I lock you out of using removable media? How the hell do GPOs work?!

    AD isn't simply authentication, grouping computers and users. LDAP does all that.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Corporations haven’t ditched windows because Active Directory and Group Policy had no equal. Now that Microsoft has slowly pushed everybody to cloud based identity, there’s really nothing stopping you from using something other than AD or even Entra ID

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Identity management is only one aspect of AD. Very telling that all these rebuttals are thinking only in terms of what LDAP can handle.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Are you commenting from the year 2007?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    A buddy of mine works for a fortune 500 company that started giving out MacBooks as the standard hardware this year. Apparently you need to jump through a bunch of hoops if you want to run Windows. I was shocked to hear it but Microsoft deserves to be humbled.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    You can totally manage a fleet of Linux devices. Next to all servers run Linux. How the hell would you do that without appropriate tooling? We use Ansible for example - Which certainly isn't a perfect solution, but a working one.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    A lot of servers run Linux. With VDI being more plausible the idea of giving laptops that are basically a "zero" has been floated.

    Last time I was in work it was in a secure environment so maybe that's not widespread.

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