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Best apps for private messaging (www.privacyguides.org)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/opensource@lemmy.ml
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Hello. I am looking for an alternative to Telegram and I prefer an application that uses decentralised servers. My question is: why is the xmpp+omemo protocol not recommended on websites when it is open source and decentralised? The privacyguides.org website does not list xmpp+omemo as a recommended messaging service. Nor does this website include it in its comparison of private messaging services.

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/assets/img/cover/real-time-communication.webp

Why do you think xmpp and its messaging clients such as Conversations, Movim, Gajim, etc. do not appear in these guides?

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[–] 9 points 8 months ago (16 children)

Self host your matrix server, use Continuwuity not Synapse, and do not enable federation.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Then why bother with Matrix at all if that's not for the federation? You give yourself the trouble and inefficiencies of an over-engineered protocol you won't even use.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Because matrix has the bet bridges so I can centralize all other protocols on my matrix server (Continuwuity) and have whatsapp, telegram, Signal all accessible from one single app.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    All those bridges rely on some community-made libraries developed by few individuals unrelated to Matrix, so, not only there isn't much Matrix-specific to them, but it's reproduced for other protocols, JFYI: https://slidge.im/

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Good to know... Well I am on matrix now, so no need to switch, but will keep in mind.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    At least you are on the continuwuity side of it, which is much more sane than hosting synapse (but you are missing out on many features I guess. If you get tired of this eventually, give ejabberd a shot, it's self-contained with all features, including VoIP/AV calls.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Why not Synapse?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    It runs like shit, at least when I tried it. Never heard of Continuwuity, will looks into it thanks.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Its the rebirth of Conduit -> Conduwuit -> Continuwuity. Built with rust, it's a community project that is pretty stable and finally free of drama.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Wait a sec, I run Conduit on my test machine and seems fine so far. What drama did I miss?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Conduit has been dead in development for years now. Conduwuit was the successor, then some drama got it shut down and reborn (new maintainers) as Continuwuity.

    Conduit saw no up grades in years IIRC and its basically abandoned I guess.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I share your concerns with the matrix organization. Most of the other concerns on that article don't apply to a private instance with only just less than a handful of users who anyway live together or share more than an online existence.

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