The eight-hour day movement (also known as the 40-hour week movement or the short-time movement) was a social movement to regulate the length of a working day, preventing excesses and abuses of working time.

Just for starters.

The modern concept of "Retirement" is also tied to socialist policy and politics. One of the first major reforms states implement after a socialist election or Marxist revolution is the implementation of retirement age. And those countries with the strongest socialist histories tend to have the lowest retirement ages and most generous pensions. Fully socialist states like Vietnam and China and South Africa have retirement in the 55-62 range. More socialist-leaning European/East Asian states like France, Denmark, Korea, and Japan have a retirement age in the 63-67 range. And fully captured capitalist systems like Uganda or Bangladesh or the undocumented worker pools of the Americas have no retirement for private workers whatsoever, working people to death.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That movement is not at all specific to socialist states. If you read a bit further it even says how it originated in industrial revolution Britain and happened all over the world.

I'm not asking about socialist or social democratic or labour movement policies in capitalist countries, I'm asking about automation shortening the work day in socialist countries

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you read a bit further it even says how it originated in industrial revolution Britain and happened all over the world.

Industrial Britian had an enormous activist labor movement. A slew of left wing thinkers and agitators emerged from the British academic scene, including Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Ghandi.

I'm not asking about socialist or social democratic or labour movement policies in capitalist countries

How are you defining "Capitalist Country" if you ignore all the socialist policies a country has implemented?

Hell, how do you define Socialist Country, if you exclude every one that's undergone Capitalist accumulation?

8-hour work week is a socialist policy, espoused by socialist parties and implemented in governments with socialist majorities. Same with pensions and other public retirement funds.

The more socialists you have setting policy, the shorter your work week and the earlier your retirement.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Industrial Britian had an enormous activist labor movement. A slew of left wing thinkers and agitators emerged from the British academic scene, including Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Ghandi.

Yeah because of how mega capitalist it was

How are you defining "Capitalist Country" if you ignore all the socialist policies a country has implemented?

Worker ownership of means of production, usually. Let's say Eastern Block, China, you get the picture.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah because of how mega capitalist it was

Capital accumulation is a predicate for the surpluses needed to build a socialist economy.

Worker ownership of means of production, usually.

Public pensions and union shops lay claim to the surplus profits of capital. The UK's union membership peaked in the 1970s, as did its wages/pensions. After Thatcher, that share declined rapidly, as did the supply of council housing, the access to public health care and education, and the various other amenities common to socialist economies.

Let’s say Eastern Block, China, you get the picture.

The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

Michael Parenti

Don't get much more "worker ownership of means of production" than that.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

You're not really giving any actual examples of automation shortening the work week in socialist countries here, unless a socialist country for you is the UK in the 70's and unless automation for you is a maoists uprising against landlords.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You’re not really giving any actual examples of automation shortening the work week in socialist countries

I pointed you directly to the 8-day workweek, which was the consequence of socialist reforms following the industrial revolution.

You can find the same reforms implemented in socialist states ranging from Lenin's Russia to Sankara's Burkino Faso. It wasn't just in England that we got statutory limits on the labor day and rules for overtime pay.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I pointed you directly to the 8-day workweek, which was the consequence of socialist reforms following the industrial revolution.

And again it's not an achievement of socialist countries specifically. It happened (and originated) in the capitalist countries too.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

it’s not an achievement of socialist countries specifically

It is an achievement of socialism, specifically.

And when the socialists get control of the whole country, it becomes an achievement of a socialist country

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 47 minutes ago

But have socialist countries have such work day shortenings that would be specific to socialist countries?