dohpaz42 comments on TOML

Vaccines are not medicine. They are a more refined form of older (much dirtier and dangerous) practices of sharing sick people's blood to create group immunity. I'm pretty thankful of not having to do the latter.
No, herbs are far from factory produced, chemically engineered medicine.

Most usages of herbs are defined in a way that it acts much closer to cooking. Also most of the herbs used in everyday cooking have medicinal and detoxifying properties, which is 1 of the ways food recipes have developed the way they do.
Herbal medicine is much milder than the extremely refined medicine produced using modern methods
- Hence, they are much slower to act and you need to be using them much earlier than what you can manage with modern ones
- Hence, there is much less overdose related problems
Most herbal medicine tend to have multiple effects. This is in contrast with modern medicine, where extra effects tend to be mostly undesirable and detrimental
- Hence, herbal medicine is a better choice for regular, low intensity problems, like the flu and what-not, rather than popping Paracetamol every time your temp goes 1℉ over the baseline.
Herbal medicine works along with nutrition. This means, it is much harder to develop a tolerance to it in a way that would make it harder for it to work in the future.

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You seem to have had something like mint and thyme in mind as an example of herbal medicine, but try to substitute something like marijuana and nightshade to see that your description doesn't fit all of the herbs. The only thing I agree is that effects often come coupled and you have to do something to isolate necessary ones.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

While marijuana and nightshade (and coffee) would be herbal "medicine" substitute for MDMA, DMT, nicotine, cocaine etc,
the others you mentioned would be a substitute for Chlorpheniramine Maleate, phenylpropanolamine and the likes.

So if a herbal medicine doctor is prescribing you marijuana for cough and cold, you can perhaps consider it being a quack. Same for someone prescribing SSRIs to a functioning adult that works 40 hours a week, on their first visit.

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

My point was more along the lines that herbal doesn't mean safe, mild, slow, etc

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev -3 points 7 months ago

It would definitely be milder and slower.
Safe? Nothing is.

If you want to fuck with your brain, then doesn't matter whether you choose poppy seeds or IV its refined chemical. You will still fuck your brain.
And coffee is pretty much an addiction.

The difference is that with the former, you would at least know what is happening to you before you turn yourself into an invalid.
And for those who said they didn't know what was happening... No. Your body gave you the signs and you decided to ignore them.

Allopathic drugs are measured in mg and some even in µg, while you will see ayurvedic stuff being talked about in grams or tens of grams, simply because they are less refined.

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