▲ 385 ▼ Iran War Chokes Off Helium Supply Critical for AI (www.wsj.com) submitted 7 months ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 92 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago (28 children) permalink fedilink source hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 105 points 7 months ago (22 children) Unfortunately it's also critical for MRIs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago (4 children) Yeah, what a crazy headline that AI was the thing mentioned and not 1 of the many other real life uses that offer greater solutions to us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago If only I could believe that's because MRIs are more important so their supply isn't in jeopardy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Because clickbaiting the 'AI bad' people is worth more advertising money than actually examining the effects of a helium shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I need more happy birthday balloons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago i wanna do a silly voice permalink fedilink source parent [–] mech@feddit.org 20 points 7 months ago* (4 children) And making your voice sound funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Sulfur hexafluoride does the opposite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSIAqOkIw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* IIRC it's also one of the worst greenhouse gasses in existence, unfortunately. Edit: the worst greenhouse gas. Why are cool things always secretly terrible? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Can you stand upside down to get dense gasses out of your lungs? Asking for a friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* I assume so. Here's a video of someone floating a boat (apparently in air) in it, and then sinking it by pouring cups of sulfur hexafluoride over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2NaYRnRGo If it avoids diffusing into air to the degree that you can scoop it up and pour it, I'd imagine that it'd pour out of one's lungs the same way. But if you just want to get most of it out of your lungs like, you've been breathing it and don't want to asphyxiate I imagine that exhaling all the air you can and inhaling air and doing that a few times would probably do a pretty good job, the way the Mythbusters video above did with the helium. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) Maybe we'll get lucky, and by the time the helium supply is restored, we've done away with the shitty not-really-AI craze, saving more helium for things of use to humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children) Maybe this is why they're now ramping up going back to the moon? Gonna start fuckin the moon up for all that sweet Helium 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago We could be at war with Iran for a century, sending strike teams in to siphon helium out of the ground and smuggle it back to the US in stealth jets and submarines, and it would still be significantly cheaper than trying to mine the moon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I sure hope not. I saw how that went in the Time Machine remake! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago They were blasting to build luxury condos iirc permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (4 children) Okay, but do you really think we're going to prioritize the enormous loss-leading CSAM engines over lifesaving medical diagnostics machines? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children) I trust our leaders to make the right decisions. Just a small bump in the road or two lately, that's all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Thanks for reminding me of the date permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Oh, I'll be damned. Didn't even dawn on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yes, yes we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wosat@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) My understanding is that MRIs don't consume helium, in the same way air conditioning units don't consume refrigerant, so helium is only needed for making new MRI machines. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago* New ones, and not all if them, work this way, as in there's tiny helium condensing unit. Older ones just let it go and require topping up every couple months (guessing by how often helium in NMR is topped up). Also every emergency shutdown invariably blows off all of helium inside permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago (4 children) It's not like its really used on AI inference, but it's used in high grade semiconductor manufacturing. so helium shortage will hit anything with a modern semiconductors in it. So it's not "whatever". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Have you missed what all the fucking semiconductors are being bought up for the past year or so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 7 months ago That is, by no means, all of the semiconductors being produced. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yeah and they will keep begin bought by AI companies, even if the production sags. If the prices were unaffordable now they will be even more so if there is a real production choke. They can keep tossing few extra billions to keep the bubble going, you and I cannot compete with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago It's not "whatever", it's "anyway" /jk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 105 points 7 months ago (22 children) Unfortunately it's also critical for MRIs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago (4 children) Yeah, what a crazy headline that AI was the thing mentioned and not 1 of the many other real life uses that offer greater solutions to us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago If only I could believe that's because MRIs are more important so their supply isn't in jeopardy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Because clickbaiting the 'AI bad' people is worth more advertising money than actually examining the effects of a helium shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I need more happy birthday balloons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago i wanna do a silly voice permalink fedilink source parent [–] mech@feddit.org 20 points 7 months ago* (4 children) And making your voice sound funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Sulfur hexafluoride does the opposite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSIAqOkIw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* IIRC it's also one of the worst greenhouse gasses in existence, unfortunately. Edit: the worst greenhouse gas. Why are cool things always secretly terrible? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Can you stand upside down to get dense gasses out of your lungs? Asking for a friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* I assume so. Here's a video of someone floating a boat (apparently in air) in it, and then sinking it by pouring cups of sulfur hexafluoride over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2NaYRnRGo If it avoids diffusing into air to the degree that you can scoop it up and pour it, I'd imagine that it'd pour out of one's lungs the same way. But if you just want to get most of it out of your lungs like, you've been breathing it and don't want to asphyxiate I imagine that exhaling all the air you can and inhaling air and doing that a few times would probably do a pretty good job, the way the Mythbusters video above did with the helium. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) Maybe we'll get lucky, and by the time the helium supply is restored, we've done away with the shitty not-really-AI craze, saving more helium for things of use to humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children) Maybe this is why they're now ramping up going back to the moon? Gonna start fuckin the moon up for all that sweet Helium 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago We could be at war with Iran for a century, sending strike teams in to siphon helium out of the ground and smuggle it back to the US in stealth jets and submarines, and it would still be significantly cheaper than trying to mine the moon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I sure hope not. I saw how that went in the Time Machine remake! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago They were blasting to build luxury condos iirc permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (4 children) Okay, but do you really think we're going to prioritize the enormous loss-leading CSAM engines over lifesaving medical diagnostics machines? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children) I trust our leaders to make the right decisions. Just a small bump in the road or two lately, that's all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Thanks for reminding me of the date permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Oh, I'll be damned. Didn't even dawn on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yes, yes we are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wosat@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) My understanding is that MRIs don't consume helium, in the same way air conditioning units don't consume refrigerant, so helium is only needed for making new MRI machines. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago* New ones, and not all if them, work this way, as in there's tiny helium condensing unit. Older ones just let it go and require topping up every couple months (guessing by how often helium in NMR is topped up). Also every emergency shutdown invariably blows off all of helium inside permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 62 points 7 months ago (4 children) Yeah, what a crazy headline that AI was the thing mentioned and not 1 of the many other real life uses that offer greater solutions to us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago If only I could believe that's because MRIs are more important so their supply isn't in jeopardy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Because clickbaiting the 'AI bad' people is worth more advertising money than actually examining the effects of a helium shortage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I need more happy birthday balloons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago i wanna do a silly voice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago If only I could believe that's because MRIs are more important so their supply isn't in jeopardy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Because clickbaiting the 'AI bad' people is worth more advertising money than actually examining the effects of a helium shortage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I need more happy birthday balloons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago i wanna do a silly voice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago i wanna do a silly voice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mech@feddit.org 20 points 7 months ago* (4 children) And making your voice sound funny permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Sulfur hexafluoride does the opposite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSIAqOkIw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* IIRC it's also one of the worst greenhouse gasses in existence, unfortunately. Edit: the worst greenhouse gas. Why are cool things always secretly terrible? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Can you stand upside down to get dense gasses out of your lungs? Asking for a friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* I assume so. Here's a video of someone floating a boat (apparently in air) in it, and then sinking it by pouring cups of sulfur hexafluoride over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2NaYRnRGo If it avoids diffusing into air to the degree that you can scoop it up and pour it, I'd imagine that it'd pour out of one's lungs the same way. But if you just want to get most of it out of your lungs like, you've been breathing it and don't want to asphyxiate I imagine that exhaling all the air you can and inhaling air and doing that a few times would probably do a pretty good job, the way the Mythbusters video above did with the helium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 7 months ago (3 children) Sulfur hexafluoride does the opposite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSIAqOkIw permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* IIRC it's also one of the worst greenhouse gasses in existence, unfortunately. Edit: the worst greenhouse gas. Why are cool things always secretly terrible? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Can you stand upside down to get dense gasses out of your lungs? Asking for a friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* I assume so. Here's a video of someone floating a boat (apparently in air) in it, and then sinking it by pouring cups of sulfur hexafluoride over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2NaYRnRGo If it avoids diffusing into air to the degree that you can scoop it up and pour it, I'd imagine that it'd pour out of one's lungs the same way. But if you just want to get most of it out of your lungs like, you've been breathing it and don't want to asphyxiate I imagine that exhaling all the air you can and inhaling air and doing that a few times would probably do a pretty good job, the way the Mythbusters video above did with the helium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* IIRC it's also one of the worst greenhouse gasses in existence, unfortunately. Edit: the worst greenhouse gas. Why are cool things always secretly terrible? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Can you stand upside down to get dense gasses out of your lungs? Asking for a friend permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* I assume so. Here's a video of someone floating a boat (apparently in air) in it, and then sinking it by pouring cups of sulfur hexafluoride over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2NaYRnRGo If it avoids diffusing into air to the degree that you can scoop it up and pour it, I'd imagine that it'd pour out of one's lungs the same way. But if you just want to get most of it out of your lungs like, you've been breathing it and don't want to asphyxiate I imagine that exhaling all the air you can and inhaling air and doing that a few times would probably do a pretty good job, the way the Mythbusters video above did with the helium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* I assume so. Here's a video of someone floating a boat (apparently in air) in it, and then sinking it by pouring cups of sulfur hexafluoride over it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2NaYRnRGo If it avoids diffusing into air to the degree that you can scoop it up and pour it, I'd imagine that it'd pour out of one's lungs the same way. But if you just want to get most of it out of your lungs like, you've been breathing it and don't want to asphyxiate I imagine that exhaling all the air you can and inhaling air and doing that a few times would probably do a pretty good job, the way the Mythbusters video above did with the helium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) Maybe we'll get lucky, and by the time the helium supply is restored, we've done away with the shitty not-really-AI craze, saving more helium for things of use to humanity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children) Maybe this is why they're now ramping up going back to the moon? Gonna start fuckin the moon up for all that sweet Helium 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago We could be at war with Iran for a century, sending strike teams in to siphon helium out of the ground and smuggle it back to the US in stealth jets and submarines, and it would still be significantly cheaper than trying to mine the moon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I sure hope not. I saw how that went in the Time Machine remake! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago They were blasting to build luxury condos iirc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children) Maybe this is why they're now ramping up going back to the moon? Gonna start fuckin the moon up for all that sweet Helium 3. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago We could be at war with Iran for a century, sending strike teams in to siphon helium out of the ground and smuggle it back to the US in stealth jets and submarines, and it would still be significantly cheaper than trying to mine the moon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I sure hope not. I saw how that went in the Time Machine remake! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago They were blasting to build luxury condos iirc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago We could be at war with Iran for a century, sending strike teams in to siphon helium out of the ground and smuggle it back to the US in stealth jets and submarines, and it would still be significantly cheaper than trying to mine the moon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I sure hope not. I saw how that went in the Time Machine remake! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago They were blasting to build luxury condos iirc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago They were blasting to build luxury condos iirc permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (4 children) Okay, but do you really think we're going to prioritize the enormous loss-leading CSAM engines over lifesaving medical diagnostics machines? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children) I trust our leaders to make the right decisions. Just a small bump in the road or two lately, that's all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Thanks for reminding me of the date permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Oh, I'll be damned. Didn't even dawn on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yes, yes we are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children) I trust our leaders to make the right decisions. Just a small bump in the road or two lately, that's all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Thanks for reminding me of the date permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Oh, I'll be damned. Didn't even dawn on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Thanks for reminding me of the date permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Oh, I'll be damned. Didn't even dawn on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Oh, I'll be damned. Didn't even dawn on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wosat@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) My understanding is that MRIs don't consume helium, in the same way air conditioning units don't consume refrigerant, so helium is only needed for making new MRI machines. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago* New ones, and not all if them, work this way, as in there's tiny helium condensing unit. Older ones just let it go and require topping up every couple months (guessing by how often helium in NMR is topped up). Also every emergency shutdown invariably blows off all of helium inside permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago* New ones, and not all if them, work this way, as in there's tiny helium condensing unit. Older ones just let it go and require topping up every couple months (guessing by how often helium in NMR is topped up). Also every emergency shutdown invariably blows off all of helium inside permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago (4 children) It's not like its really used on AI inference, but it's used in high grade semiconductor manufacturing. so helium shortage will hit anything with a modern semiconductors in it. So it's not "whatever". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Have you missed what all the fucking semiconductors are being bought up for the past year or so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 7 months ago That is, by no means, all of the semiconductors being produced. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yeah and they will keep begin bought by AI companies, even if the production sags. If the prices were unaffordable now they will be even more so if there is a real production choke. They can keep tossing few extra billions to keep the bubble going, you and I cannot compete with that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago It's not "whatever", it's "anyway" /jk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Have you missed what all the fucking semiconductors are being bought up for the past year or so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 7 months ago That is, by no means, all of the semiconductors being produced. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yeah and they will keep begin bought by AI companies, even if the production sags. If the prices were unaffordable now they will be even more so if there is a real production choke. They can keep tossing few extra billions to keep the bubble going, you and I cannot compete with that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 7 months ago That is, by no means, all of the semiconductors being produced. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago Yeah and they will keep begin bought by AI companies, even if the production sags. If the prices were unaffordable now they will be even more so if there is a real production choke. They can keep tossing few extra billions to keep the bubble going, you and I cannot compete with that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago It's not "whatever", it's "anyway" /jk permalink fedilink source parent
