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[–] 128 points 6 months ago (33 children)

Hope this pushes the royalty-free alternatives more. That's a crazy jump.

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  • [–] 78 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    AV1 already wins handily as a codec, and the only thing keeping it from being adopted more broadly than is currently the case is lack of hardware decoders on older hardware. This problem naturally solves itself as old hardware gets replaced.

    Even then, dav1d is a remarkable piece of software, and software decoding is pretty viable for AV1 thanks to it. Many places have already adopted AV1, and you should expect to keep seeing it get adopted as time goes on.

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  • [–] 24 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    AV1 has recently gotten involved in a lawsuit by Dolby saying that they're breaking like 5 4 of their patent, so there's some issues there as well: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/03/av1s-open-royalty-free-promise-in-question-as-dolby-sues-snapchat-over-codec/

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    These things always happen because of how dumb software patents are. There's no guarantee the lawsuit will stick, nor do I necessarily expect it to

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago

    It's even worse than that: the USPO abrogated their responsibility to evaluate patents for prior art and conflict with other patents to the courts.

    So they just issue patents willy nilly and expect courts to decide which ones 'win'.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Better hardware encoder support would help, too. It's insanely inefficient to encode without that dedicated hardware, compared to h264/h265, where dedicated hardware support is there.

    I was hoping Apple would add it when they shipped the M4, and now M5, but nope.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Hardware encoder support I think is generally less critical. Decoding is the process that needs to happen real-time, while most encoding can be done far in advance, unless you're live broadcasting or operating at YouTube-scale.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    While I agree, my point was that encoding needs to be more efficient, both in time, and resource consumption. That isn't quite there yet, for AV1. It is improving, albeit slowly.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    non apple chips can pretty much all hardware encode AV1 nowadays. it's really just apple doing its own thing again

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    It's too bad the GPU prices are utter insanity due to the LLM pyramid scheme poaching global RAM. I read an article yesterday that said Apple is likely eating that RAM overhead as a loss to ensure their long term strategy.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I still wonder why video is about the only thing for which a restricted format is still the "industry standard"?

    We nowadays take photos in JPEG or WebP format, draw raster images in PNG or WebP format, vector graphics in SVG format, our documents are PDF or OOXML or ODF or HTML, all of which are (at least technically) open standards. Video is the only thing that still mostly runs on formats with restrictive patents.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (19 children)

    Which royalty free alternatives exist?

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    Theora, VP8, VP9, and AV1 are the ones that come to mind.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    What about Matroska? That was open to begin with, wasn't it? Is it not good for streaming?

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    MKV is a container format for bundling together streams of audio, video, and text. It does not provide the actual video compression, which is still typically h.264 or h.265.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Understood. They mentioned mpeg4 in the text, which (because of the MP4 container) got me on that route. Thanks for the clarification.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Unrelated, screw you for getting that jingle stuck in my head for another week.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    Lol what jungle? Or... do I even want to know?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Your username…now with better looking drivers!

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Oh! Hahahahhahhahaha!!!

    What country have I got? Hello?...

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    where did you get the number from, if you're not getting the references?
    not to gatekeep, i'm just confused

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    ...I do get the reference. Thus the userID, avatar, and name. And my previous comment, once I understood ayyy was referring to my username and not my previous comment. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question?

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    maybe i wasn't getting it, but i didn't remember a "what country did i get" line, although i can imagine it

    also i don't see an avatar or name, just the emergency number on my android client. i was gonna check it on my pc but i forgot.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Moss causes a fire, and tries calling number. He can't remember all of it, so he just enters some numbers to the tune. It's a hilarious scene lol

    Not sure why you don't see my avatar or name. I'm on browser, and see everyone's.

    Edit. Minute 1.27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EBfxjSFAxQ

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The other answer you got hits it on the head already.

    Here's an additional piece of info you might like: The webm container format is actually a specific subset of Matroska. The big players in the web recognised that it was a very useful open container format and adopted it for the web. They took a subset to make implementation in browsers easier and more uniform.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Didn't Dolby just sue Snap for using AV1? Claiming it uses similar techniques to h264 or 265 or something?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Shit I hadn't heard of that. That makes me sad. I know from reading developer blogs at the time that they tried to use less established techniques in some places to try and avoid similarities. Let's hope it proves to be enough in the lawsuit. That would be horrible if some dusty encumbant can crush the new codec at a critical time of its global adotion.

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