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People who are staying on Plex, have you tried Jellyfin? What about it do you not prefer? (real question) (discuss.online)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Honest question, because I know multiple people who are not looking to jump ship since they already have the Plex Pass.

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[–] 140 points 4 months ago (40 children)

Ease of use for my users across multiple platforms with minimal tech knowledge on their end. I'm sharing my library with ranges from 12yo to 70. I need it to "just work" and it does that perfectly.

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  • [–] 64 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Same here. Plex just works for my folks with 0 tech literacy. I may try Jellyfin in the future, but I have a few friends that primarily access Plex via Playstation 4/5, and I know there's no support there yet.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Couldn't upvote this harder. Tried Jellyfin for 5 mins and was super confused why I couldn't find sharing options. After googling and reading about reverse proxies and buying domains and shit I said fuck it and uninstalled

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Totally understandable, however basic tailscale version is free and you can just have that installed on all of the connected devices as a "reverse proxy". You then use the ip adress from the server or main computer with the files and connect to its tailscale provided ip adress after turning it on and as long as you have port 8096 open on the server computer (http:/with your adress here:8096) you can connect to the server through the jellyfin app on the device you've installed it on.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, I think you lost them after the first paragraph. 😉

    I am tinkering constantly with my home setup, but I am lacking the time to set up everything to my liking.

    So I am using neither Plex or Jellyfin, I am using Kodi and have a Webdav share available for when I am away on holiday. 😬😁

    But then I am only sharing with my closest family in my home network. Somehow it seems everyone is providing a streaming service for half the neighborhood and the remote family (or possibly a polycule with the drama associated, IIRC).

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I never fully understood this argument as you would have to do that anyways with plex unless you're using their proxy which would just artificially rate limit all of your users. But I do realize that jellyfin doesn't have an email invite system in place which really is my biggest issue

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago

    What's the "that" that you'd have to do anyway with Plex? I had to do nothing of the sort. I asky friends and family to make a Plex account and ask what email address they used. Then I give that email access to my library

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  • [+] [S] -8 points 4 months ago* (13 children)

    Did you try Jellyfin? I've had success with Jellyfin once I've been the one setting up the TV app, etc. It did just work, because users found it very simple in comparison to Plex. If anything, they like how Plex shows more things beyond the collection.

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  • [–] 44 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    I've been the one setting up the TV app, etc.

    That is exactly the issue. I can’t personally set up the app for all my users. Most of them are not in my household.

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  • [+] [S] -11 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Me either, but I don't expect them to setup any sort of app themself (including Plex).

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    That's his point though, he does expect them to be able to set up themselves, and apparently Plex is good for that.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Yes, in my case I personally had to setup both clients (Plex and Jellyfin) for the family members myself.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)
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  • [+] [S] -12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ah, the answer to that.... I configured the server beforehand and installed it at their house as a gift, so I have persistent SSH access over VPN and can administer it remotely at will within tmux. Has worked for several years.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The extent of the setup for Plex is to log in with your email and password, pick which shared libraries you want to be pinned to your home screen, and then browse. My parents in their 70s were able to figure it out and all I had to do from my end was grant them access to the libraries I wanted to share with a simple check box.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Had to find it, but there is a new tvOS app that looks very nice: Moonfin

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Thanks do letting me know about this. I tried it and it does look good. Sadly for me at least it does perform well. Moves slow between options and libraries. And the Live TV Guide isn't working at all. That could be a me issue, but the slowness is unacceptable. Once I have more time I will play it more and probably reach out to the Dev.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    I use both at home, mostly plex though and I have about a dozen people who watch remotely and keeping the remote access private and secure I'm not putting jellyfin behind a public reverse proxy. Not feasible to setup wire guard for a dozen people across 4 states and troubleshooting those tunnels when Plex does all that for me. Plus Plex allows them to manage and reset their password without my intervention

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  • [+] -12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

    I've never understood this stance. You do you, but if I'm offering to host stuff for friends or family for free, they can at least learn to operate that thing on their end.

    Edited to add, wow I did not expect this to be such a hot take. Fuck me I guess lol.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Surely you haven't exposed your Jellyfin to the open net, since even the devs admit that that is a terrible idea

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Theres a reason everyone uses a VPN to allow remote streaming for their Jellyfin. The things as open as a barns door, so you should not just open it to the public. Like I said, even the devs say not to do that, its just not secure enough

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    According to your own link that you totally read : "Note that opening a port gives full access to that port to the next higher Network. Opening a port directly to the Internet is therefore insecure and not recommended." and "forwarding its Ports directly to the internet (not recommended!)"

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Well I was just answering your question about "why would jellyfin have documentation about opening it to the web if unsafe?" by pointing out that while they do tell you how to, they also explains the risks associated with doing so. Having documentation about something doesn't mean that the devs endorse this usage.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Ok, where did I say any of that exactly? I never said it was a jellyfin only issue anywhere, and I sure as hell didn't say anything about VPN, as much as you didn't say anything about a proxy until now. And congrats on using a proxy and exposing your server to said proxy, you're just proving my point by not exposing directly to the internet as your previous comments implied.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It seems to depend on how you are granting access and have configured the server... if they have to setup VPN access in order to access Jellyfin, as opposed to logging into plex website.

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  • [+] -12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No, that doesn't change anything about what I said really.

    To me, if I'm hosting something for my friends and family, they can put in the effort to learn how to use it. Period. Whether that's as simple as logging in through a browser, installing an app, or using a VPN. They can learn, or they can pay for Netflix (as an example, since we're discussing a media server originally).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    In my experience getting dozens of people on to my server, plenty will happily choose to pay for Netflix. I want people to choose my server over paid streaming, so I offer both Plex and Jellyfin, and to date not a single person has stuck with Jellyfin, and several have gotten my invite email, took a look at the FAQ on how to request media, and continued using paid streaming.

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