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[–] Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app 162 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I imagine most of the more tech savvy people on Lemmy would scoff at this and say "Might as well build a PC" (me included, which I already did), but this is aimed at the consumers who do not have that skill set and are willing to pay that price point for a Steam gaming system /shrug

[–] kewjo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

unlocked, cec, full desktop, form factor, silent, plug and play, built in wireless for controllers and a base station for VR.

if you have disposable income and have those requirements i think it makes sense, especially since the market can remain irrational as long as it wants.

i really hope it sells out as it shows there's demand for support on Linux and that game developers should at least target minimum specs to the steam machine which is a boon to the whole community

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 105 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I wanted the tiny box format for playing my steam library on the TV without needing to run a cable from the PC. Wasn't sure I could build one this small so I waited to see how much this was.

Around $800 for the 2TB model was my hope when it was announced. Stupid AI data centers screwing over memory prices.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think $800 for 2 TB was still a bit overoptimistic, but I suppose we'll never really know.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean, before the AI bullshit picked up, I managed to get a couple of used Samsung 4tb 990 ssds for $250 a piece. $800 for a nice console/PC with that much storage wasn't much of a reach then, given consoles usually are sold at cost to get you invested in the ecosystem.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not a fair comparison. You found a very special deal for those drives which were half the price of a decently performant one at half the capacity at normal sale prices.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not by the outlook at how cheap a 2tb drive would have cost by now if AI data centers didn't fuck it up. A 2TB nvme drive 3 years ago was ander $110.

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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Exactly, the small form factor is a huge draw. I’ve built as-small-as-possible cheap gaming PCs before and never gotten close to this size.

I currently use one with no video card that just streams my main PC, but the streaming sucks.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

For a TV PC the cube form-factor is nice, in a "sit on top of the furniture looking pretty" sort of way. However, I think a short-depth 1U form-factor to stack with hi-fi equipment would be a good way to do it as well, and relatively easily achievable to DIY with off-the-shelf parts.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think I would have much success trying to build a SFF PC today for 1k or less. You pay a premium for mini-itx and really tiny cases, PSUs, everything. The only cost that is the same is the CPU really, even a heatsink often needs to be very specific to fit a case.

The last two SFF cases I picked up that are high quality were $200. Just look at minisforum stuff, their products are expensive and look nice, it's all in the same vein.

You can definitely find better deals for desktop gaming performance, for sure, but I doubt people are going to find something that's off the shelf at 27L or less and same or better perf for cheaper.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, a completely different setup than I have would allow for other options.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I wonder how many people there are that fall in that category but who wouldn't just buy a much cheaper console instead though.

[–] Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Honestly that makes me like Steam even more. Any company that is willing to put up that much money to serve a niche market earns my respect. Sure they're doing it for the simple reason of Steam machine owners being guaranteed Steam gaming customers but it's still serving a subset of their customers like few companies do these days.

[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bless Valve for investing money purely for the goodness of making money

[–] Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Sure, but they're one of the only companies proving that consumerism doesn't mean you have to be a complete asshole of a company. They make money, people get the product they want at a price point they are satisfied with.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sure they're doing it for the simple reason of Steam machine owners being guaranteed Steam gaming customers

That isn't even the most important reason, IMO. I think they're doing it mostly to actively push Steam OS and thus normalize Linux for gaming. Not because they care about Free Software in principle, mind you, but as a hedge against the existential threat of Microsoft locking them out of Windows.

[–] Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app 8 points 1 week ago

Shit I'll take that as a reason too and gladly back them for it.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

An existing PC game library, better pricing and flexibility for PC games, wider and more robust controller support ...

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All true. If you already have a large library of PC games, it wouldn't make much sense to get a console. But then you probably already have a PC as well, and can ride it out until the AI bubble pops. That's certainly what I'm doing, as now is probably the worst time in history to buy new PC hardware.

Of course, some may say it's only the worst time in history for now...

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They said this is more powerful than 70% of steam user's PC.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe it. I'm sure there are millions of people using Steam to play Dota or CS2 on stuff like old laptops. But how many of those are willing and able to spend 1000+ for an upgrade?

Ultimately, stock may be so low that it doesn't really matter though.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That means there are a shitload of potential customers, not "I wonder how many people there are that fall in that category but who wouldn't just buy a much cheaper console instead though."

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[–] Caducous@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And those people cant afford the steam machine. I just don't see how the steam machine isn't DOA.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

... There are plenty in that group that can afford a steam machine. Why is everyone acting like that 70% is living on gruel.

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[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have friends who only have consoles. This is who I think should be looking at this. People like me who wanted a second PC for the living room may pass on this because of the price, though. I don't need a second PC that bad. But for my people with no PC, no monitors, no keyboards, this is pretty decent. Not to mention the it's an alright deal when pricing out a build yourself.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Except a PS5 Pro is $1100CAD and this is $1500CAD ($2000CAD if you match storage with the PS5 Pro, which is 2TB.) That is a huge jump. This is too underpowered for enthusiasts, and too expensive for console only gamers. Early indication is that it’s also underpowered vs a PS5 Pro, so I think it’s underpowered even for console gamers.

I know why they have the price pressure they do. But I can’t say I’m not wildly disappointed. This had the potential to end the console market entirely and now it’s looking like another also ran.

I was almost definitely going to buy this. At this price vs performance, I don’t think I’ll even put my name on the list. Much of this is out of Valve’s hands, but maybe they should have just scrapped it until pricing is better. This might be worse than nothing.

One thing I will say is I love the form factor. If was looking to build a living room PC this would be a serious contender because the design is great. But it’s just not enough to pay $1500 for a PC that matches the spec of my $800 PS5.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, speaking for myself, I already bought the consoles back in 2020. I bought a Steam Deck to access non-console games.

This does what the Steam Deck does only moreso.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Steam Deck had an extremely attractive and competitive price when it launched.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (8 children)

"Equivalent" consoles are much more expensive now as well. The entire playing field is fucked.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

With today's prices how much cheaper would you get building similar yourself?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I heard from a trusted colleague that the difference is about $70, but you also get a possible steam controller discount + a sweet-ass form factor + better compatibility guarantees.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm gonna say that's next to nothing, especially when you consider driver support.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Agreed - that's part of what I meant by "compatibility guarantees," but I should have called out drivers more explicitly.

[–] suxen_tsihcrana@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget all the time you save not having to configure stuff and fight with drivers. I enjoy dealing with that stuff because I like to learn, but others might not.

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[–] garbage_world@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Poland with already high electronics prices and 23% VAT, I could build something similar for around $1000.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] garbage_world@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The thing is, 23% VAT applies to the SM too.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are things this does that would be very difficult to achieve in a custom build. It's very compact and quiet and has very good driver support without any tinkering. It's a machine you hook up to your living room TV and for that it works very well, including CEC support which is not standard on PC hardware. The price is of course hard to swallow and performance isn't great but i think this thing will definitely sell all the units they can possibly make.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s also a fundamentally different user experience. Sure you could load SteamOS onto a machine you built. But the point is that this targets the couch players, instead of the desktop players. And very few PC players will build a new PC just for their couch.

I love my Steam Deck, because it has caused my wife’s complaints about gaming to dry up almost completely. When I’m at my computer desk, she can’t snuggle with me. But by moving to the couch, we can snuggle while I play. Her complaints weren’t really about my gaming; they were about my physical unavailability. And the Steam Deck allows me to access the vast majority of my PC games on the couch, so we can both be happy.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

very few PC players will build a new PC just for their couch.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Or people that just don't want to bother with building another machine to put downstairs in the livingroom or whatever. There are a lot of middle aged people who have been PC gaming for decades, are perfectly happy to build their primary gaming machine, and have hundreds of games in their library, and the means to consider the couple hundred dollar price difference between $1000 and whatever they could spend to build a machine to be worth the convenience of not having to do it.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was hoping for a miracle that I could recommend it to a friend's son as a good entry into PC gaming. But they're on a tight budget and I guess they could do better for the same money.

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