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[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 month ago (24 children)

It makes it more accessible to the lazy and talentless.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As someone with the fine motor control of someone made of all elbows, who couldn’t hope to ever draw anything and who leaves that up to people with talent and work ethic for money, all of the cool things in my head that die there because they’re better in my imagination than I could ever express through words or art.

I feel seen.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Give digital art programs a try. There's plenty of free alternatives to the big subscription model vultures out there, there's GIMP for image editing, Krita for drawing, Blender for 3D, DaVinci Resolve for video editing, Audacity and Pro Tools Free for sound recording and editing, you can even make modular synths using VCV Rack. And if you like rum and eye patches theres versions of the big players out there too.

I am absolutely shit at drawing, but professionally I make 3d animations, having drawing skills helps, but it's not necessary to learn any one of these.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I am even more terrible at those than I am with physical media.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everyone is terrible when they start. You can get better if you practice over time.

You might not ever draw the next big masterpiece, but if you practice you will get better.

All it takes is 15-30 minutes a day.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone is terrible when they start.

There are definitely exceptions

(He's 2 years old)

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

Creative skill and imagination. It is inherent to art.

Even the shittiest executed art is art. Your perception of art is skewed by the commodification of it through capitalist societies. I sincerely implore you to take up any kind of art that does not require AI if you're truly interested in expressing yourself.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It really is just persistence and accepting a certain amount of "I'm so bad at art" for eternity. Just make something, draw, paint or whatever. Look for things that motivate you to make stuff and learn to do it anyway, sucking is the first step to being kinda good at something.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A class or two can help. The feedback from an instructor can help you figure out where you are going wrong.

It’s also 100% accepting that you will be terrible. It just has to be fun even when it’s terrible.

Yeah, self-critique is important but you can never see everything

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Have you considered collage? You just need some mod podge, a few foam brushes, and magazines/random print material. There’s still lots of room for skill and exploration, but there’s not a technical barrier to entry.

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[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not alone. Sorry all these pricks think you just haven't tried.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I wish to formally apologize for offering friendly advice on the internet, maybe I should have been even more of an apparent prick than I apparently was and told op to give up forever on their desire to be more creative and told op to eat shit and die.

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[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It def takes some practice to get into these programs but many of them have really good tutorial series geared toward beginners. As far as my experience, in Blender you have the Donut Series put out by Blender Guru that takes you from "I've never even heard of blender" to "I've made a really good looking donut." By the end of the series.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Art is not about the destination. It's about the journey. Deaf compositors made music knowing they would never hear it.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Didn't Beethoven use little wires hooked up to his head connected to a part of the piano so he could kinda "feel" the music as he played it when he went deaf?

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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn’t creating art despite those obstacles meaningful though? Art is always going to be an imperfect copy of what is in our head and absolutely nothing about generative AI can possibly change that. But artists have intent and all their experience in every line they make - that’s part of the joy and tragedy of it and what makes it so human.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Yes.

In the same way that some people are satisfied with fast food, AI folks are satisfied with fast art - despite that they may be poisoning themselves.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Have you tried pixel art?

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's why it's so so so popular with conservatives (and fascist now). There is something about having skill in art that makes you a lot less likely to be conservative. It's about the material circumstances that lead people to become artists, I'd guess.

So now all these Nazis can make Trump memes by typing something stupid into a prompt. It's ugly. It's not intelligent or creative but it's just enough to spread their hateful propaganda. AI art is awful. But it's 100x better than what these fascist could ever hope to create.

Seriously. I feel like the only real use case for AI art right now is making awful fascist propaganda. At least it's the only area of "art" that is actually seeing "improvement" from it.

Which tells you a lot about how these fascist idiots complain about "culture" so much but have actually no culture or art of their own.

If you need a gross example just search for the AI Trump Gaza video. The purpose isn't art. But it's still serving the role that art plays in propaganda.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IDK. I don't like AI for commercial applications. But for frivolous things? That's it's critical application. I'm not taking food from the mouth of any artist if I post some AI meme image I generate onto a social media site. There is no universe where I'm paying an actual professional artist to make meme images for me to post to social media. I'll sometimes use AI slop, but only in slopworthy applications. Screwing around on fediverse and other sites is such a slopworthy application.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like this is what people don't see.

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[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't feel like that's actually an argument against it. Why would everyone need to learn to draw? Why if I need some random background asset or prop should I spend months or years learning to do something I don't enjoy? The alternative is to pay an artist, but in many cases it literally doesn't make sense to waste that kind of money on a trivial thing. It can have its uses.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

should I spend months or years learning to do something I don't enjoy?

Okay. If you don't even like drawing, why should I care to see it, then?

Is this like when casual acquaintances who don't like each other pretend to make weekend plans they both know they're going to cancel if either one of them ever brings it up again?

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

Okay. If you don't even like drawing, why should I care to see it, then?

You shouldn't care, you're right!

Yet here we are in a community that's all about b*thing about it.

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Is that for your D&D campaign?

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