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The DOJ is using fake "AI" case citations to justify ICE detainment (europe.pub)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/49593520

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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.miwd.120609/gov.uscourts.miwd.120609.11.0.pdf

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[–] 13 points 3 months ago (16 children)

Sigh, this seems to be a crosspost of another feddiverse post sourced from a reddit post of a screenshot of a twitter post, none of which link to the post of the actual source material.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Sorry for not linking to a fascist enabling website that generates ai child pornography

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You should learn how to search courtlistener yourself, and recognize the diminished value of a picture of a picture. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.miwd.120609/gov.uscourts.miwd.120609.11.0.pdf

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Thank you for posting the link.

    Btw, I can recognize that something is important and hope others will continue the effort. My focus is mainly scraping various sites for crimes of ice, and I have a life outside if that.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    That is missing my point, you could have grabbed the attached files of the Twitter post, then attached them to the post.

    As it stands now, you haven't rwally done anything bu act like an echochamber, we have no way to independently verify the claims made here.

    Look, sourcing of information is important even if you have to use a source you dislike.

    If you believe the source to be problematic, you add notes to that effect.

    By refusing to provide a source you are simply posting clickbait, clickbait without any substance.

    The best thing you can do in these cases is to find an alternative source that you find more credible and use that. And by that I don't just mean finding a post or article referencing the source you dislike, but rather an article that is either investigating the claims, or you investigate them yourself.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I refuse to open an X.com link

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Yet you repost their posts, still driving traffic to them.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Show me how it's done then, get the links to the story and show the evidence.

    I have other priorities right now like getting my daughter to summer camp

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    I have no intention of doing your job for you, you made the post, you provide the source.

    In the current era of AI fakes, outright lies, misunderstandings, and ignorance clouding the judgement of people, posting accurate sources is important so that everyone has the same opportunity to verify what is being discussed.

    Look, my first comment was mainly a joke of the absurdity of the reality of people sending random screenshots of social media posts as fact without bothering to add a direct link as a source. You could just have ignored it or even agreed with me, added a quick source link to the original post, and that would have been fine, but you came in fighting, so I had to respond in kind.

    Anyway, put down your phone and help your daughter to get to summer camp!

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    If my options are posting a screenshot and hope the community follows up, or nothing, then I'd rather post the screenshot. Dispite possible abuse from people like you.

    In the future, I will try to remember to ask for help from the community when I don't have the time to research myself.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Abuse?

    That wasn't abuse, criticism, yes, abuse, nope.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    It's really easy to criticize and mock people.

    How many reports of the US regime 's crimes have you reviewed today?

    How much time a week do you volunteer to help your community?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    I never mocked you, if I made you feel mocked, then I apologize, it was never my intention to do so, my intention was to point out the absurdity of the phenomenon of reposts like it.

    As for the other part of your post, that is an entirely different topic than this thread.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    We are a community, we can iterate on what each other say.

    In the future, I'll try to ask for community help in the post to help research when I do not have the time.

    You are not wrong that this should include a link to the doc in the screenshot. But I think you are wrong in how you demanded it. This instagated a emotional response from me, so I'm sorry about that. Also, accusations of posting clickbait and adding to an echo chamber are inappropriate.

    1. I have no benefit if this post is clicked or upvoted.
    2. This is really happening, this is legal evidence used to send people to concentration camps or deport them (sometimes to countries they have never been)

    Remember, not everything you don't like needs to be accused of something, you can just simply help fix it sometimes, which I guess we are doing now.

    if you haven't yet seen, the link to the document was posted in the comments.

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.miwd.120609/gov.uscourts.miwd.120609.11.0.pdf

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