▲ 549 ▼ US accuses American of allegedly wiping his phone using a 'duress' password during border search (techcrunch.com) submitted 2 months ago by madeindex@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 138 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49853131 Feels to me like GrapheneOS did exactly what it should, passing the US border test with flying colours! Funny part about this lawsuit: “With a little planning ahead of time, you can always download the data you need once you get to where you’re going,”
[–] madeindex@lemmy.world [S] 39 points 2 months ago (15 children) best promotion ever haha What is it? FU-123? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 47 points 2 months ago* (14 children) I imagine the best duress PIN is something you'd actually see a "normal" person set as a PIN, like their birth year or something innocuous and easy to remember (and easily believed by whoever's demanding your PIN), while their real PIN would be longer or more abstract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago* (6 children) Honestly I would use a stupid basic one that someone might try and use if they were guessing. Like a duress pin of 1-1-1-1, 1-2-3-4 or 2-4-6-8. It gets the people who take the device and then try and break into it without your permission as it's almost certain they will at least try one of those three. Worst case scenario they ask you and you say what it is and they give you a blank stare of "really?..." it's not like they wouldn't try a pin you gave them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] obvs@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children) I don't recommend a duress password of 1-1-1-1, because that could be set off accidentally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) Or those common dumb ones could be attempted by someone just trying to snoop on your phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* that's sort of the point of it being super basic. The intent is you want it to be tried before they somehow manage to get your actual pin, or give up and try to force you to provide it. if they put the pin in before you tell them a pin the argument for destroying evidence is weakened heavily as it isn't a you initiated thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* that's fair, I don't know if graphene supports press enter to submit but, I usually have that setting enabled on my devices permalink fedilink source parent [–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (1 child) The sort of code an idiot puts on his luggage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Exactly that, its not easy to fat-finger, but is dumb enough that its the second thing anyone would guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago Yeah, you actually gotta remember it too! So a 1234 pword is kind of great permalink fedilink source parent [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) Or Jenny's phone number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Is it with a Zero or letter O? They sing the letter "O". Or, what about handing "niiine"... 3 nines? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Sounds dumb to give it out, but mine is my normal 8-digit pin, just backwards. It's easy to remember and seems like a legitimate PIN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) that would throw me for a loop longer than I would like to admit, it took me like 10-15 seconds to process what mine would be backwards and mine is only 4 digits lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It may be an IT person thing but I like numbers lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 47 points 2 months ago* (14 children) I imagine the best duress PIN is something you'd actually see a "normal" person set as a PIN, like their birth year or something innocuous and easy to remember (and easily believed by whoever's demanding your PIN), while their real PIN would be longer or more abstract. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago* (6 children) Honestly I would use a stupid basic one that someone might try and use if they were guessing. Like a duress pin of 1-1-1-1, 1-2-3-4 or 2-4-6-8. It gets the people who take the device and then try and break into it without your permission as it's almost certain they will at least try one of those three. Worst case scenario they ask you and you say what it is and they give you a blank stare of "really?..." it's not like they wouldn't try a pin you gave them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] obvs@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children) I don't recommend a duress password of 1-1-1-1, because that could be set off accidentally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) Or those common dumb ones could be attempted by someone just trying to snoop on your phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* that's sort of the point of it being super basic. The intent is you want it to be tried before they somehow manage to get your actual pin, or give up and try to force you to provide it. if they put the pin in before you tell them a pin the argument for destroying evidence is weakened heavily as it isn't a you initiated thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* that's fair, I don't know if graphene supports press enter to submit but, I usually have that setting enabled on my devices permalink fedilink source parent [–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (1 child) The sort of code an idiot puts on his luggage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Exactly that, its not easy to fat-finger, but is dumb enough that its the second thing anyone would guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago Yeah, you actually gotta remember it too! So a 1234 pword is kind of great permalink fedilink source parent [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) Or Jenny's phone number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Is it with a Zero or letter O? They sing the letter "O". Or, what about handing "niiine"... 3 nines? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Sounds dumb to give it out, but mine is my normal 8-digit pin, just backwards. It's easy to remember and seems like a legitimate PIN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) that would throw me for a loop longer than I would like to admit, it took me like 10-15 seconds to process what mine would be backwards and mine is only 4 digits lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It may be an IT person thing but I like numbers lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago* (6 children) Honestly I would use a stupid basic one that someone might try and use if they were guessing. Like a duress pin of 1-1-1-1, 1-2-3-4 or 2-4-6-8. It gets the people who take the device and then try and break into it without your permission as it's almost certain they will at least try one of those three. Worst case scenario they ask you and you say what it is and they give you a blank stare of "really?..." it's not like they wouldn't try a pin you gave them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] obvs@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children) I don't recommend a duress password of 1-1-1-1, because that could be set off accidentally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) Or those common dumb ones could be attempted by someone just trying to snoop on your phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* that's sort of the point of it being super basic. The intent is you want it to be tried before they somehow manage to get your actual pin, or give up and try to force you to provide it. if they put the pin in before you tell them a pin the argument for destroying evidence is weakened heavily as it isn't a you initiated thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* that's fair, I don't know if graphene supports press enter to submit but, I usually have that setting enabled on my devices permalink fedilink source parent [–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (1 child) The sort of code an idiot puts on his luggage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Exactly that, its not easy to fat-finger, but is dumb enough that its the second thing anyone would guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] obvs@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children) I don't recommend a duress password of 1-1-1-1, because that could be set off accidentally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) Or those common dumb ones could be attempted by someone just trying to snoop on your phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* that's sort of the point of it being super basic. The intent is you want it to be tried before they somehow manage to get your actual pin, or give up and try to force you to provide it. if they put the pin in before you tell them a pin the argument for destroying evidence is weakened heavily as it isn't a you initiated thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* that's fair, I don't know if graphene supports press enter to submit but, I usually have that setting enabled on my devices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 child) Or those common dumb ones could be attempted by someone just trying to snoop on your phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* that's sort of the point of it being super basic. The intent is you want it to be tried before they somehow manage to get your actual pin, or give up and try to force you to provide it. if they put the pin in before you tell them a pin the argument for destroying evidence is weakened heavily as it isn't a you initiated thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* that's sort of the point of it being super basic. The intent is you want it to be tried before they somehow manage to get your actual pin, or give up and try to force you to provide it. if they put the pin in before you tell them a pin the argument for destroying evidence is weakened heavily as it isn't a you initiated thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* that's fair, I don't know if graphene supports press enter to submit but, I usually have that setting enabled on my devices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (1 child) The sort of code an idiot puts on his luggage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Exactly that, its not easy to fat-finger, but is dumb enough that its the second thing anyone would guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Exactly that, its not easy to fat-finger, but is dumb enough that its the second thing anyone would guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago Yeah, you actually gotta remember it too! So a 1234 pword is kind of great permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children) Or Jenny's phone number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Is it with a Zero or letter O? They sing the letter "O". Or, what about handing "niiine"... 3 nines? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Is it with a Zero or letter O? They sing the letter "O". Or, what about handing "niiine"... 3 nines? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago Is it with a Zero or letter O? They sing the letter "O". Or, what about handing "niiine"... 3 nines? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (2 children) Sounds dumb to give it out, but mine is my normal 8-digit pin, just backwards. It's easy to remember and seems like a legitimate PIN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) that would throw me for a loop longer than I would like to admit, it took me like 10-15 seconds to process what mine would be backwards and mine is only 4 digits lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It may be an IT person thing but I like numbers lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) that would throw me for a loop longer than I would like to admit, it took me like 10-15 seconds to process what mine would be backwards and mine is only 4 digits lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It may be an IT person thing but I like numbers lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It may be an IT person thing but I like numbers lol. permalink fedilink source parent