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GrapheneOS Defends Data-Wiping Function That Blocked US Border Search (www.pcmag.com)
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The foundation behind the ultra-secure Android-based OS is speaking out after an activist was indicted for using a 'duress password' to prevent federal agents from searching his phone.

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[–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

If you reject the only supported hardware platform your priorities clearly lie elsewhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (13 children)
    • I want to avoid Google!
    • Graphene: here you go
    • Nice, now what phone?
    • Obviously a Google phone!

    Come on, there gotta be many people who want to avoid buying a fucking pixel, even if second hand.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And if you don't know why Pixel is the only phone supported that is on you. They are the only phone that allows you to relock the boot loader with a custom ROM. And since grapheme OS is all about security why would you want to run a phone with a unlocked boot loader. That is a point of weakness.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Afaik Pixels come with the least bloat to work around amd also have some security features the GOS people like. Buying used or refurbished Pixel is currently the best you can do, so Google doesn't get any more money.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    I get it, there are reasons, but the point stands that I(and apparently others) preferably would have nothing to do with a Google product, how is that an unreasonable opinon?

    I'm currently stuck on a phone that I can't even root (afaik), but I am also not eager to buy a new one while this one works perfectly (and isn't ginormous like most newer phones). I might be more willing to swich to a new non-G phone but how it is now I try to sandbox as much shit as i can (or know of) or use alternatives where possible.

    It also feels like an incredibly complicated topic on what you could and should do. And I consider myself at least somewhat tech literate. It feels frustrating and some of the elitism around it doesnt help.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    If these people's priorities are to wait for for years until an expensive phone from Motorola is supported I think they need their heads examined, but that's just me.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Some people simply can't afford to buy an extra phone, not even a used one. And some people don't even have a Pixel option in their market.

    But if you think money and phones simply grow out of trees in all of the places of the world that the US has fucked, maybe it's you who needs your head examined.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately Graphene has a reason for this, Pixels are (for now) the only phones with the HW security requirements list Graphene has, they're just the most secure (HW wise) phones on the market.

    They also share your sentiment, but realistically they have to work with what exists, not what is fantasy. They are taking steps with Moto to get off of that dependency however and that phone should be just as secure (where their current ones lack something on the list.)

    If you just want to get away from google, try LineageOS, if you need it to be secure then you're just as stuck as Graphene is, I'm afraid.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This sums up perfectly what I think about it, thanks.

    Why all the elitism hurrdurr, the topic is frustrating enough to keep up with

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    They used to have a saying about that: if wishes were horses, every beggar would ride. Some haven't gotten the memo, and prefer to bitterly complain to bystanders instead.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    If you don't have the money for a used Pixel nor can DIY a secure libreboot used Thinkpad you need to go lowtech.

    If you can't or won't you're simply screwed. Try finding a lamp with a helpful genie, because the universe sure as hell won't accomodate your wishes.

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